Nitro IC's with Silver NextGen connectors?

Marbles · « **on:** 18 Jun 2004, 12:24 am »

Wayne, have you tried this yet?

If so, how did it turn out?

Your Silver NextGen digital IC is very nice.

Wayne1 · « **Reply #1 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 01:03 am »

Hello Rob,

I have not tried the Silver NextGen on the NITRO's yet. The only cables I have built with the NextGens so far have been digital and video cables.

If you are willing to be a guinea pig, send me an e-mail and we can discuss upgrading your Bullet connectors to NextGens

Marbles · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 01:15 am »

ROB968323 · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 01:15 am »

Wayne,

How do the Nextgen connectors compare against the Eichmann connectors for video...Just trying to squeeze the last little bit out of my component cables.

Thanks,

Rob

Wayne1 · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 01:47 am »

Rob,

The NextGen is the finest thing I have found for digital AND video.

I built a set of component cables for my HD RPTV using the Copper NextGen and Bybee Slipstreams and it is VERY, VERY good. the picture from some DVDs can come real close to a good HD signal.

I have been building a fair amount of cables for Bubba's boss. He is seriously into video. He feels that the cable I have been making him with TWO Silver Slipstream Bybees built in, are about the best thing he has encountered for video.

He uses Nordost Vahalla for speaker cable and audio interconnects for his system. He is used to some fine cabling. He also seems to like the power cables I build with Bybees and Furutech connectors.

bubba966 · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 03:35 am »

As Wayne's said, my boss is extremely pleased with the Digital, Sub, Video & Power cables Wayne's built. And that's a whole hell of a lot of Silver NextGen's, Bybee's & Furutech plugs.

The HD Laserdisc looks sweet with Wayne's video cable (has Silver NextGen connectors).

And yeah, the component cable Wayne built w/2 Silver Slipstream Bybees per leg (making a total of 6 in the cable!

) went over very, very well with my boss. He's extremely pleased with that one.

The component cable I had Wayne build me used Silver NextGen's as well. I really thought I'd pushed my video setup as far as it'd go on my current display. But that component cable w/Silver NextGen's bumped up the quality an easily noticeable amount. Quite an impressive improvement.

Fife · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 03:46 am »

Bubba and Boss are Bybee crazy!

ROB968323 · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 11:15 am »

So let's see...

A one meter component set of Ice Digital cables would be around $2,100 with the Bybees built in? You guys must have great jobs or be independantly wealthy.

I'm not sure my gear could justify an expense like that.

Wayne,

Would you be able to swap out the Eichmann connectors with the Nextgen on cables that I currently have? They are not your component cables. Do you feel that this would even be a significant improvement?

Thanks,

Rob

Wayne1 · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 Jun 2004, 04:21 pm »

Rob,

I compared the Silver Bullets to the Copper NextGens and felt there was enough difference to stop ordering the Silver Bullets. The NextGens are the same price and built to higher quality standards and, to me, look and sound better.

I have not peant too much time with the Silver NextGens, but I do take Bubba's impressions very seriously.

Contact me through e-mail or PM and I wll see what kind of deal we can work out.

bubba966 · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 03:35 am »

Quote from: ROB968323

So let's see...

A one meter component set of Ice Digital cables would be around $2,100 with the Bybees built in? You guys must have great jobs or be independantly wealthy. I'm not sure my gear could justify an expense like that.

Uhhh, yeah, the cables I've been ordering from Wayne certainly aren't cheap. So Wayne, have you got your kids college funds taken care of yet, or do I need to order a few more cables?...

I don't have an ULTRA ICE component cable yet. But I probably have the video front end to justify them when I upgrade my display to the set I want.

My boss did feel his video setup was worthy of such cables, and is most pleased with them.

I've been very, very happy with the Silver NextGen's used for component cables (they're awesome on my component cable). I've found that the quality of a signal connection is very, very important in a cable. It has proven wise to go with the best possible connection in my experience. And the Silver NextGen's are the best there is at the moment.

Sure, NextGen's are spendy (be they copper or silver). But well worth the investment IMO...

Marbles · « **Reply #10 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 03:43 am »

Quote from: bubba966

I've found that the quality of a signal connection is very, very important in a cable. It has proven wise to go with the best possible connection in my experience. And the Silver NextGen's are the best there is at the moment.

Sure, NextGen's are spendy (be they copper or silver). But well worth the investment IMO...
...

I recently did some experimenting and found the exact same thing. I will only go for the Silver NextGen until they make something better.....

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 05:12 am »

Quote from: Fife

Bubba and Boss are Bybee crazy!

Must be trying to catch up to satfrat, the Bybee King...

(j/k)

bubba966 · « **Reply #12 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 06:17 am »

Quote from: lonewolfny42

Quote from: Fife
Bubba and Boss are Bybee crazy!

Must be trying to catch up to satfrat, the Bybee King... (j/k)

There's no trying, passed him up months ago..

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 06:26 am »

Quote from: bubba966

Quote from: lonewolfny42
Quote from: Fife
Bubba and Boss are Bybee crazy!

Must be trying to catch up to satfrat, the Bybee King... (j/k)

There's no trying, passed him up months ago..

Robin's got about 22 Bybees I think....you have more than him ???

bubba966 · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 06:28 am »

I can think of at least 23 Silver Slipstream Bybees alone in my boss's setup. I can't even recall how many large copper & copper Slipstream Bybees there are as well...

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 Jun 2004, 06:36 am »

Quote from: bubba966

I can think of at least 23 Silver Slipstream Bybees alone in my boss's setup. I can't even recall how many large copper & copper Slipstream Bybees there are as well...

WOW !! Guess we have a new King !!

Marbles · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 Jul 2004, 04:29 pm »

I have had my Nitro IC's reterminated with Silver Nextgens, with the exception of my Tonearm cable which has copper Nextgens.

I first tried the the analog system without the bybeed set of IC's in the system at all. What I heard was a very clean sound with more micro details coming through and more pinpoint imaging, both inside and far to the sides of the speakers. There was a slight edge to the sound, but not bad at all.

I then tried the same thing with my digital front end, but I needed to use a pair of Eichman copper IC's from my dac to my pre, all other cables were Nextgen silvers. Same thing as the analog. More micro details came from the system, imaging was quite focused, yet the soundstage was very wide.
Slight edge to the music.

Then I put the Bybeed Nextgen silvers between the amp and pre. and put a pair of Nextgen silvers where the Eichman coppers had been.

The edge was gone, but all the micro dynamics came through. This is pretty darn good! I'm happy I did the upgrade!

What I'll say is that it might not be worth $200/pair to have your IC's reterminated, but for me it would be worth every cent when I go to have new cables built.

I haven't found any downside to using the WBT Silver Nexgens, and there is more focus, better details and better imaging with them.
I highly recommend at least the IC's between your amp and pre to have a pair of bybees.

As always YMMV.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 Jul 2004, 05:44 pm »

Great Marbles

...was wonderin' when you'd give your mini-seat-of-the pants review of the Nextgen's.

The $200 re-termination per pair was un-bybee'ed, right?

Wayne, do you/will you reterminate other brand IC's? I have a pair of LAT International IC-200's that I know soooo well in three years that the differences would be very quick to discern. They are shielded, silverfuse amalgram of silver and copper conductors, and currently have 90% copper (with a tinge of zinc for hardness, I guess) locking rca's.

Marbles · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 Jul 2004, 05:49 pm »

Quote from: TheChairGuy

The $200 re-termination per pair was un-bybee'ed, right?

All reterminations were the same price regardless of the cable.

As a gunea pig I received special pricing and was mentioning the price of the connectors, which are $50 each, or $200 per pair. I have really no idea what
he will end up charging.

Check with Wayne for exact pricing.

I should also add that I hadn't listened to my system WITHOUT the bybeed Nitro's between the amp and pre for a long long time and the system could have had the "edge" to it all along, and it was only the absence of the bybee IC's that caused me to hear it.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 Jul 2004, 08:13 pm »

Thanks Marbles - I'll check with Wayne...or he may just chime in there for all to hear.

I have $300 ZSLeeves on my digi cable AND the IC from my DAC to pre...do you think I ma benefit from a bybee on the pre - amp IC's that much?

Can't say I've bought into the Bybee 'magic', but I'm flexible and not one to scoff much.