JVC RX-F10 (Tripath-based)

aamsel · « **Reply #220 on:** 11 Sep 2004, 10:07 pm »

Is there an inexpensive phono preamp that I could get that would sound decent with this receiver??

I don't have an expensive turntable at all. It is an old direct-drive Technics. Just don't want to toss my records.

If there is a resonably priced model, please tell me the make/model, where I can get it (if you know) and cost (if you know it)???

Thanks a lot,
as always.

Andrew
Austin, TX

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #221 on:** 11 Sep 2004, 10:21 pm »

I use a Parasound PHP-100 with a JVC RX-ES1sl and MusicHall MMF-5 turntable and it is a decent preamp for $120.

Dennis

aamsel · « **Reply #222 on:** 11 Sep 2004, 10:39 pm »

Is $120 as inexpensive as you can go for something that will operate decently??

I am not usually this "cheap", just want to get the thing working, and don't have much money to dedicate to the 100 records that I still have.

Thank you,
Andrew
Austin, TX

Quote from: tubeytubeamp

I use a Parasound PHP-100 with a JVC RX-ES1sl and MusicHall MMF-5 turntable and it is a decent preamp for $120.

Dennis

tvyankee · « **Reply #223 on:** 11 Sep 2004, 10:41 pm »

hey guys.

i been messing around with my RX-ES1s in the multi mode and i am not able to get the sub to come on.

i the dvd digital mode it works just fine.i was wondering if someone can shed some lite on this.

i also tried to connect a ic from the sub out of the dvd player to the sub in on the jvc and not a thing.

checked all the settings and they seem to be in order.it almost seems like the crossover dose not work in this mode.

any help on this would be great.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #224 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 01:16 am »

tvyankee, your sub SHOULD work when you use connect a mono IC run (from your DVD) to the sub in on the JVC.

Check the settings again.....the sub must be highlighted on the speaker selection area - that's how you know you have set it right internally. If it ain't 'highlighted' (lit up, that is) next to L and R, then you don't have it set internally yet right.

Again, once you set it (I think you can only do this on the unit, not with the remote), it SHOULD work. I say should because 1) I haven't done it and 2) I assume that function is not defective on your unit (or anyone else's for that matter).

I have a sub connected and playing when set at 'DVD Multi'. I did it by buying a Monster Cable Y splitter and splitting of the left signal coming from my DAC to the sub. If worse comes to worse, it will definitely work that way for you. It'll only set you back another $20 for the Y splitter.

tvyankee · « **Reply #225 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 01:32 am »

thanks for the heads up.

i will check it out tomorrow and let you know what happens.

i am at work tonight and won't be home until late tonight.

thanks.

nature boy · « **Reply #226 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 01:16 pm »

Has anyone started to offer modifications on this one yet?

NB

mcgsxr · « **Reply #227 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 01:19 pm »

I would suggest a PM to Wayne at Bolder Cables, I am sure he can hook you up.

Not sure if other modders are also doing this piece, or not.

Mark in Canada

Red Dragon Audio · « **Reply #228 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 06:52 pm »

Quote from: aamsel

Is there an inexpensive phono preamp that I could get that would sound decent with this receiver??

I don't have an expensive turntable at all. It is an old direct-drive Technics. Just don't want to toss my records.

If there is a resonably priced model, please tell me the make/model, where I can get it (if you know) and cost (if you know it)???

Thanks a lot,
as always.

Andrew
Austin, TX

Radio Shack has a nice battery powered phono preamp for about $35. It works well for me but I know there are better phono pre's out there. I am just satisfied with this for now.

By the way, I have the Pannny XR45 and my turntable is the Project WOOD Classic with Grado Red Cartridge.

tvyankee · « **Reply #229 on:** 12 Sep 2004, 07:04 pm »

well i got time today to mess around with the jvc.

i don't know what i was thinking but my 5.1 analog output has been disabled because i got a modded player and there is no sub out.

but what i did discover is that if you listen to the dvd input in the analog mode the sub will work.just so you know the dvd analog output is hooked up to the dvd multi input and the sub out is still hooked up to the sub out.

i wanted to confirm i was listen to the analog so i disconnected the digital input and when i did the analog still worked.

also i wanted to check if the jvc supported 24/96 and it did not.

i used the muddy waters folk singer 24/96 dad that i used with my denon and the jvc would not lock up to it.the denon had no problem locking onto the 24/96 signal from the disc.

i also a/b the dvd multi and the dvd direct in the analog mode and i heared no change.so i don't really know if it is that important to use the dvd in the multi mode now.

thanks for the help but i forgot about the modded player .

i hope my findings help.

btw even if you don't have the ic hooked up to the sub out of the dvd player the line under the sub on the jvc still stayed on.another words if their is no signal the line stays on under the word sub.

Stereodude · « **Reply #230 on:** 23 Oct 2004, 05:13 am »

What kind of jacks are these exactly?

"Screw-type Speaker Terminals: Front L/R, Centre, Surround L/R, Surround Back"

They don't sound like binding posts, but they also don't sound like spring clip terminals either.

Anyone have a picture of them?

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #231 on:** 23 Oct 2004, 08:01 am »

Screw type?? They're spring clips.

Sub out in DVD multi mode only works if there is a discrete subwoofer input. This should be a sticky because it confused the heck out of me and a few other people, I'm sure, for a a few minutes too.

Stereodude · « **Reply #232 on:** 23 Oct 2004, 12:56 pm »

Quote from: ooheadsoo

Screw type?? They're spring clips.

That's what the JVC Australia page says.

http://www.jvc-australia.com/products/_products_sub_group_details.asp?ID=1331

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #233 on:** 23 Oct 2004, 06:00 pm »

Hey maybe the revised it. That would be cool.

Stereodude · « **Reply #234 on:** 23 Oct 2004, 10:55 pm »

Quote from: ooheadsoo

Hey maybe the revised it. That would be cool.

Or more likely, the page is wrong.

tonygeno · « **Reply #235 on:** 24 Oct 2004, 09:38 pm »

Wacky idea.

Idea would be to use the 5.1 analog ins as inputs from the pre outs of a pre/pro and driving the speakers from the JVC's internal amps.

Disregarding the insanity of using a receiver as a power amp with a pre-pro (I realize most people would go the other way), would this be operationally possible?

I'm using some Flying Moles for my fronts and center and thought I'd try some digital amps for the sides and rears. I love the power to weight ratio.

If this is possible, where should I set the volume control in order to develop full output from the JVC's internal amps?

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #236 on:** 24 Oct 2004, 10:41 pm »

I think it would work functionally via the dvd/multi function but you would have two volume controls in the signal path. The digital one on the jvc is already hardly ideal. Dunno if you want to "suffer" that "degradation."

intelonetwo · « **Reply #237 on:** 29 Oct 2004, 12:32 am »

Hi everyone, I just wanted to report that the JVC RX-F10 does accept a 44.1 digital signal upsampled to 176.4 khz via the digital input. I am running a Panasonic DVD-F85 DVD Changer and I am using the Digital ReMaster feature this unit has to output a signal of 176.4 khz. The RX-F10 will not however accept a 192 khz signal. Ah, the sound.

I previously had the Panasonic XR45 but I sold it because it was very limited in its features, and options. The JVC has many more useful features (non including the smart setup which is virtually worthless, b/c you could measure and get the same results, its great for lazy folks I guess.) such as digital Eq, subwoofer output options, phase, etc.

Great little unit from JVC. I have owed many receivers in my life including the most expensive kind of their respective years, but I can not remember any that sounded better than the JVC. It hasnt even burned in yet.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #238 on:** 29 Oct 2004, 03:31 am »

I'm almost past the point of needing additional back-up to confirm what I'm hearing...but not quite. It's great to hear of a audiophile that- been-down-that-road finds the JVC that good.

Wait till you hear it burned in..you'll think it's done at 100; pretty sure our getting it all at 200, but wait till hour 300 passes.

I just bought some Maggie MMG's (Small listening area precludes me from buying larger ones...that and a wife

). They drive them as effortlessly as any of the other, more traditional cone and dome speakers I've had them on. Remarkable.

Dmason · « **Reply #239 on:** 29 Oct 2004, 04:14 am »

The JVC seems to be almost completely load-invariant, cruising through everything down to the

1 Ohm Apogees I have heard.

A friend of mine just built a small line array using 4 a side of the e-speakers tiny terror 2" wide rangers, which are 1 Ohms each for 4 Ohms. No problem there either. He also reports that the little 2"ers sound pretty fabulous. He is going to use the new Adire Extremis 6" XBL^2 for a woofer, crossed over at 200Hz, and will power it with the JVC. Great sound is getting cheaper by the day, and I would imagine this combo will be a new paradigm, using 3 new products employing new technology in each product.

My F10, now five months old and left on the whole time, has a very mature, exceedingly refined sound about it. DVD Multi it is.