Oldest Vinyl Album in History

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Oldest Vinyl Album in History
« on: 29 Jun 2012, 11:08 pm »
Holy crap is this cool. And scary. Technology is really. Really. Scary.

http://gizmodo.com/5922410/this-is-the-oldest-vinyl-album-in-the-history-of-the-world

Sometime in 1890, Emile Berliner recorded the first album in the history of the world. Then, that record by the father of the gramophone was destroyed. Today, Patrick Feaster, a sound historian at Indiana University, recreated the album using just a printed photograph of the album. His technique defies belief.

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Re: Oldest Vinyl Album in History
« Reply #1 on: 29 Jun 2012, 11:33 pm »
That was really cool. Thanks for the link!

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Re: Oldest Vinyl Album in History
« Reply #2 on: 30 Jun 2012, 12:08 am »
It looks a 78rpm record that were made with shellac or aluminium core, I have never seen a 78 made in vinyl.
I feel vinyl use started in 1948 with the CBS LongPlay disc and 1949 with the RCA 45rpm.

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« Reply #3 on: 30 Jun 2012, 02:45 pm »
It looks a 78rpm record that were made with shellac or aluminium core, I have never seen a 78 made in vinyl.
I feel vinyl use started in 1948 with the CBS LongPlay disc and 1949 with the RCA 45rpm.

They say usage determines changes in language.  Many people are annoyed with vinyl being used as a synonym for record, irrespective of its real meaning.  :dunno:   If they persist, we'll prob see definition #2 in the dictionary -  gramophone record.

Using a computer to recreate a record, like the Library of Congress, is interesting.  It's a technology that's said to far surpass the laser optical turntable from quite a few yrs ago.   Back in the '80s we had a stereo customer that could read classical record grooves, by sight.  Dr Art Lintgen (MD) could look at the grooves, with label and stamped numbers covered, and would not only tell you what it was, but what version. I was also the record buyer and he was of immense help in selecting our classical offerings.  He was the person that suggested we stock the Lyrita record label, and told me which titles were more desirable.  The records came from Scotland, and had no US distributor.

http://www.skepdic.com/vinylvision.html

http://www.lyrita.co.uk/

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Re: Oldest Vinyl Album in History
« Reply #4 on: 30 Jun 2012, 03:43 pm »
They say usage determines changes in language.  Many people are annoyed with vinyl being used as a synonym for record, irrespective of its real meaning.  :dunno:   If they persist, we'll prob see definition #2 in the dictionary -  gramophone record.

Using a computer to recreate a record, like the Library of Congress, is interesting.  It's a technology that's said to far surpass the laser optical turntable from quite a few yrs ago.   Back in the '80s we had a stereo customer that could read classical record grooves, by sight.  Dr Art Lintgen (MD) could look at the grooves, with label and stamped numbers covered, and would not only tell you what it was, but what version. I was also the record buyer and he was of immense help in selecting our classical offerings.  He was the person that suggested we stock the Lyrita record label, and told me which titles were more desirable.  The records came from Scotland, and had no US distributor.

http://www.skepdic.com/vinylvision.html

http://www.lyrita.co.uk/

neobop, thanks for bringing up Dr. Lintgen story...first thing came into my mind reading link in wushuliu's post. I saw the good Dr. showing his skills to Randi on TV back then. Totally amazing. On the usage of "vinyl," our Brazilian friend's comment is right without any need for qualification. Please notice than nowhere in linked article there is a reference to "vinyl" when referring to the disc in question...it only says, in concluding, that this particular Berlin's recording may be the oldest existing "progenitor" of modern vinyl discs . The Blogger is the one introducing confusion by referring (mistakenly) to the subject as a vinyl disc in the link's URL.

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« Reply #5 on: 30 Jun 2012, 05:50 pm »
No disputing accuracy of Fullrangeman's post, merely an observation about our changing lexicography.  Reading someones referral to records as vinyls, still seems a bit odd to me.

Seeing Dr Lintgen do this in person, was a mind blowing experience.  At first I thought it was a set-up, a joke, but it proved to be real. The only time he faltered was with a little known version of some "lesser" work. He still identified it, but might have to guess at the conductor!  LOL the guy was amazing - a true music lover.  His payment for consultation was my putting aside some titles he wanted for his collection.