[kevin360]

Is this a warning to beware of fakes?

[charmerci]

Is this a warning to beware of fakes?

It may sound silly but the easiest way to spot a fake Rolex is to watch the second hand. If it doesn't run continuously, it's a fake. There are no quartz crystals in real Rolex so they don't jump second to second. I don't know about recent ones but Rolex don't keep as accurate time as a $2 watch because of that!

[seikosha]

It may sound silly but the easiest way to spot a fake Rolex is to watch the second hand. If it doesn't run continuously, it's a fake. There are no quartz crystals in real Rolex so they don't jump second to second. I don't know about recent ones but Rolex don't keep as accurate time as a $2 watch because of that!

Actually while that (fake Rolexes don't have smooth sweeping hands) was true a number of years ago, it's not today.  There are plenty of fake Rolex watches out there with mechanical automatic movements.  Also, Rolex has made quartz watches in the past, (they had a whole Oysterquartz lineup) and I think they still might today in some of their Cellini models.

[bladesmith]

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tube-audio-horizons-new-patent-pending-fuse-platinum-reference-2014-02-21-amplifiers-95670-gold-river-ca

What do you think ?

[Letitroll98]

Yeah, pretty insane.  I haven't tried swapping out fuses yet as it's just been sort of last on the list of tweaks, but I gotta believe a higher quality fuse and/or fuse holder would have a similar effect that power cords have had for me.  Namely sometimes a really big difference, other times not so much, but almost always an improvement over OEM.  (I have eliminated fuses in a circuit which was a great improvement)  But $115 for a fuse?  Is it made from Unobtainium?  What in the world could you make a fuse out of or treat it with that would cause it to be offered at a fair market price of $115?  So yeah, the previous post qualifies as a nomination for the thread title.  BTW, when do we vote on the winner?

[rollo]

  Any product that does NOT offer a 30 day money back guarantee. Hey I'm game to try these tweaks. Some tried were affective some were not. Herbie's products, Kanso amp stands, Synergistic fuses, Progold all have had good results.
   Price is always an issue. Allotting money to tweaks as opposed to a new component may not be the way to go. Hmmm, $1500 for new phono cable or new cart ? Bang for the buck baby.


charles

[DaveC113]

Fuses can make a big difference, so can almost anything in an audio circuit. But power really is in the signal path even though the imperfections are reduced by the power supply they are still apparent in the amplified signal and extremely audible.

So, not a rip off.

I think these kind of things are more a question of how far do you want to go? Binding posts, RCA jacks and capacitors can make an even bigger difference but I can see the appeal of fuses... the fuse is much easier to get to and replace!

[Tyson]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot. 

[FireGuy]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

I so agree.  I know what you can get for $2500 let alone 4 X's that.

[bladesmith]

The audio industry is a lot like many others in the world,  too much embellishing and not enough substance/truth.

[trackball02]

At least the fuse on Audiogon comes in a pretty box...audiophile jewelry.  I wonder if the effectiveness of this "patent pending" fuse will equally work if it just came in a shrink wrapped plastic box or in a zip lock bag?

[bladesmith]

Trackball02,

Everything sounds better when it comes in a pretty box.

[Vapor Audio]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

How can you draw such a hard line like that?  And why $10K other than it's a nice round number?

If a product costs $10K but has 200 man hours of labor, and $5000 of hard costs, is it still a rip-off? 

[decal]

How can you draw such a hard line like that?  And why $10K other than it's a nice round number?

If a product costs $10K but has 200 man hours of labor, and $5000 of hard costs, is it still a rip-off?

Somebody touched a nerve !!!!!!! 

[JRace]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

Any examples?

Seems to be an arbitrary number.

[DaveC113]

Yeah, agreed. $10k isn't that much if you want the best of the best. And some people have the cash so why not?

I just read about a pair of SET monoblocks that cost about $11k.... just in parts! If you figure the design and construction are worth something then right there we are well over the $10k mark.

Same with speakers... commercially, it takes at least $10k to offer a truly full range, high quality speaker and that's from direct marketing guys like Vapor, AK, etc... otherwise it's a lot more.

You don't have to spend that much.... my components don't cost that much.... but just because something costs that much doesn't mean it's not still a great value for someone.

[sebrof]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

A couple of things I've learned after some years in this hobby:
1. You can get excellent sound for not a lot of money
2. The more you spend, the better it gets (unless you spend foolishly)

[bladesmith]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

100% correct..!

[Mike Nomad]

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[JLM]

Anything over $10k in price.   Even $10k is stretching it a lot.

+3

It's simply a matter of diminishing returns. 

Even with unlimited money at that point it's morally criminal not to donate it the less fortunates.