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For $500 shipped? You must be out yo mind.
And what makes you say this?Have you even listened to it?George
Early CD’s did sound worse than vinyl. Today, SACD (to me) easily outperforms vinyl, ESPCIALLY with classical music (both in measurements and in sonic character). On a different note, there certainly is a price/performance ratio that is hard to nail down. Just because someone states there mega dollar unit sounds “better” than a more modestly priced but still well designed unit is impossible to validate. To them, sure it does, but to someone else, they may tell you that you were “ripped off”. Depending on the overall system, those differences may or may not be realized. You get to a point with this hobby where you “listen for certain characteristics” that define high end quality to your taste. Someone else may (and often do) value different sonic characteristics that for them, define “high end sound”. The reality is, all systems fall short somewhere, and excel in other areas. We tend to place value judgments according to our personal preferences (which is a primary reason why we argue so much about what is “better”). When one puts together a system, we go for a certain synergic set of values. One person may value dynamics above all else, another values imaging, while another may value a magic midrange above all else. As people’s taste evolves, so does their selection of equipment to attempt to match. However, since no system can sound exactly like live music, we forever search for that setup that gets us as close as possible (to align with our given current listening biases).
Thanks for posting that Freo, I almost completely agree with the whole post. My very small caveat would be that SACD is virtually dead and Hi-rez computer files or Blueray music discs have taken over their place in the market. Nevertheless we are in agreement that Hi-rez files of one type or another give vinyl a real run for the money in subjective audio quality.The rest of the post is a bulls eye and is the reason I prefer vinyl over CD, despite owning many very enjoyable CDs, and why my head is being turned by Hi-rez music files. Both formats sound right to me. To me that's the compelling argument for the newer formats, just listen to them. Apparently you like that confirmed with measurement and enjoy multichannel sound over stereo. I use measurement mostly as a fix when something's amiss, and prefer stereo. Your post illustrates very eloquently how we get to the same place with that, excellent.
Why don't you two get a room. Some of us are still bickering over here!
The only thing I've talked about without experience is the Ncore, which I will soon own. Zybar, on the other hand, owns lots of things I have no experience with, like grey balls.
Even with lower priced components than the competition, Emotiva still has to rely on sales to get the products to move. The construction and layout looks quite good for the price (I've only owned one, the XDA-1 DAC).I still feel the gaudy blue light show drives away some potential customers. It is a shame that they decided on the in-your-face look as opposed to something with more subtlety and finesse, at least from a marketing standpoint. I think that's what keeps it from having twice the sales it could or should.Steve
I really think it depends on the particular product. Even within their own product lines they have lower and higher ranges.
Nice! Sorry to see (or hear) it has to be said so many times!When 'science' trumps experience we're all in trouble!
?How do you know they're not selling like hot cakes?I keep wanting to buy an emotiva product but the overall feedback seems to fall on the 'good, but not great'. Heck, Stereophile just reviewed one of their towers and the subtext falls right in line with that (Wharfedale bookshelves are better sans bass).
