BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #20 on: 3 Sep 2012, 01:42 pm »
HI James,

Looking forward to yet another great Bryston product.

Would this be the moment to ask for native DSD (as in http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/468-emm-labs-dac2x-review/) and HDMI inputs (as on the http://www.stereophile.com/content/nad-m51-direct-digital-da-converter) too? Might have to make it a little bigger with extra computing power......, but I believe it would make it more future proof?

Would appreciate your thoughts about that.

Marius

Hi Marius

DSD is something we are looking at (does not seem like there is much LEGAL material available though)  but I am not happy with the jitter numbers with HDMI.

James

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #21 on: 3 Sep 2012, 01:50 pm »
DSD: great, hope you can do it.
HDMI: I totally appreciate your point of view about jitter/hdmi. Otah, please consider how very convenient it would be to be able to plug the (secondary) hdmi out of DVD/Bluray players right into this new Bryston product, instead of needing another product in between (HDMI de-embedder)
Or would we have to buy an SP3 for that....

Marius

coincidence or not, Channel Classics today started new DSD compilations and here are some of their downloads http://www.channelclassics.com/dsd.html

Hi Marius

DSD is something we are looking at (does not seem like there is much material available though)  but I am not happy with the jitter numbers with HDMI.

James

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #22 on: 3 Sep 2012, 01:55 pm »
I guess this would come with Windows/Mac asynchronous USB Audio drivers written by Bryston, and supporting DS, ASIO, Kernal Streaming, and 
WASAPI?

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #23 on: 3 Sep 2012, 01:55 pm »
DSD: great, hope you can do it.
HDMI: I totally appreciate your point of view about jitter/hdmi. Otah, please consider how very convenient it would be to be able to plug the (secondary) hdmi out of DVD/Bluray players right into this new Bryston product, instead of needing another product in between (HDMI de-embedder)
Or would we have to buy an SP3 for that....

Marius

Hi

Yes I think this particular product will be targeted to current BDA-1 owners who want to use a state of the art asynchronous USB out from their computer to their current BDA-1  AES/BNC/COAX inputs.

James

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #24 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:00 pm »
I guess this would come with Windows/Mac asynchronous USB Audio drivers written by Bryston, and supporting DS, ASIO, Kernal Streaming, and 
WASAPI?

Hi Bruce

Yes we have written all the driver software and so far at home my demo unit works well with ASIO etc.  So far I have tested with Media Monkey and JRiver on my Windows laptop at all samples up to 192/24 and with my MAC PRO Laptop (only at 44 and 96 on the MAC because I only have standard Songbird).

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #25 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:06 pm »
Hi Bruce

Yes we have written all the driver software and so far at home my demo unit works well with ASIO etc.  So far I have tested with Media Monkey and JRiver on my Windows laptop at all samples up to 192/24 and with my MAC PRO Laptop (only at 44 and 96 on the MAC because I only have standard Songbird).

James

Any typical computer "hitching" of the sound, or is it interruption free?

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #26 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:12 pm »
Any typical computer "hitching" of the sound, or is it interruption free?

So far no issues at all   :thumb:

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #27 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:37 pm »
HI James,

with the right software and connected to the right DAC (the new Bryston obviously) your MacbookPro ought to be capable of 24/192  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1596?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
I use Audirvana Plus http://audirvana.com/?page_id=112 that does just that and more (DSD) highly recommended!:




Marius


Hi Bruce

Yes we have written all the driver software and so far at home my demo unit works well with ASIO etc.  So far I have tested with Media Monkey and JRiver on my Windows laptop at all samples up to 192/24 and with my MAC PRO Laptop (only at 44 and 96 on the MAC because I only have standard Songbird).

James

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #28 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:41 pm »
HI James,

with the right software and connected to the right DAC (the new Bryston obviously) your MacbookPro ought to be capable of 24/192  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1596?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
I use Audirvana Plus http://audirvana.com/?page_id=112 that does just that and more (DSD) highly recommended!:




Marius

OK... thanks - will give it a go.

james

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #29 on: 3 Sep 2012, 02:56 pm »
Hi Marius

DSD is something we are looking at (does not seem like there is much LEGAL material available though)  but I am not happy with the jitter numbers with HDMI.

James

James - don't know much about it but there are a few DACs out there that can do DSD at the moment - saw this too - http://diydsd.blogspot.com/

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #30 on: 3 Sep 2012, 03:32 pm »
Hi James, any pics on the innards?   :)

What would be the key feature of this converter that separate Bryston from the myriad of converters out there??

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #31 on: 3 Sep 2012, 04:35 pm »
What would be the key feature of this converter that separate Bryston from the myriad of converters out there??
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Nothing other than it's a Bryston :thumb:

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #32 on: 3 Sep 2012, 04:37 pm »
HI James,

with the right software and connected to the right DAC (the new Bryston obviously) your MacbookPro ought to be capable of 24/192  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1596?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
I use Audirvana Plus http://audirvana.com/?page_id=112 that does just that and more (DSD) highly recommended!:




Marius

Hi Marius,

Downloaded it - works great.  I am using it in combination with ITUNES getting all sample rates up to 192/24 - any other  tips?
Have the trial version for 15 days - how much is it??

james



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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #33 on: 3 Sep 2012, 05:01 pm »
 :thumb: :thumb:
49$

Hi Marius,

Downloaded it - works great.  I am using it in combination with ITUNES getting all sample rates up to 192/24 - any other  tips?
Have the trial version for 15 days - how much is it??

james

Marius

Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #34 on: 3 Sep 2012, 06:00 pm »
another tip might be, since u use the Itunes integration (I never tried yet) to check wether iTunes adds all your indexed hires recordings physically to the Itunes Media folder. Check in Itunes/settings where that is. You might not want to end up with all double files. Playing with more than 1 library is very well possible, but you have to figure out some settings, and startup options.

Yet another tip would be to send one over and see if it works just as well this side of the pond of course  :D

Cheers!
Marius

Hi Marius,

Downloaded it - works great.  I am using it in combination with ITUNES getting all sample rates up to 192/24 - any other  tips?
Have the trial version for 15 days - how much is it??

james

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #35 on: 4 Sep 2012, 02:46 am »
Hey James,

Interesting direction on USB-A.  I've seen other products like this from companies such as Musical Fidelity with their V-DAC and M1 product lines.  What I've seen them do is not only offer the USB convertor as a separate component, for those that need it but also integrate the technology in their standalone DAC e.g. M1-DAC A, where "A" stands for asynchronus USB.

Are you considering offering an update to the BDA-1, say the BDA-1 "A" that will have the a-USB integrated?  Given where competitors are going with their latest updates to DAC models - it may make sense to integrate this technology (if possible) within an updated version of the BDA-1, while still offering it as a stand-alone for those who already own a BDA or perhaps those who own a competitors DAC product and want what Bryston can offer in a USB convertor.

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #36 on: 4 Sep 2012, 03:17 am »
Hey James,

Interesting direction on USB-A.  I've seen other products like this from companies such as Musical Fidelity with their V-DAC and M1 product lines.  What I've seen them do is not only offer the USB convertor as a separate component, for those that need it but also integrate the technology in their standalone DAC e.g. M1-DAC A, where "A" stands for asynchronus USB.

Are you considering offering an update to the BDA-1, say the BDA-1 "A" that will have the a-USB integrated?  Given where competitors are going with their latest updates to DAC models - it may make sense to integrate this technology (if possible) within an updated version of the BDA-1, while still offering it as a stand-alone for those who already own a BDA or perhaps those who own a competitors DAC product and want what Bryston can offer in a USB convertor.

Hi

Yes I think a BDA 1A  makes a lot of sense.

James

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #37 on: 4 Sep 2012, 03:27 am »
I think the product makes sense, as do many, at a proper price point for those who like their DACs and may just want the upgraded USB.  Depending on which direction I go, it may make lots of sense as I can just use the balanced out of it into the BDA-1 and have plenty of digital inputs.  That's one good thing about the BDA-1 vs. some others out there which have more limited inputs.  It (the Bryston USB converter)  seems similar to this product - http://www.tweekgeek.com/evo-usb-to-spdif-interface/

Marius

Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #38 on: 4 Sep 2012, 04:51 am »
Hi James,

Since you're obviously into the software-players with this new product, you might want to have a look at http://www.headfonia.com/os-x-audio-players-amarra-audirvana-pure-music-fidelia-decibel-and-bitperfect/ which has a nice overview of the various players for the Mac. Of course there are more reviews, but this one is rather complete and could be a good startingpoint for further investigation.

I settled for Audirvana+, simply because it sounds, works and feels best for me (and my Mac), doesn't cost a fortune (Puremusic in either version) and has all I need, whiteout all the bells and whistles I don't need and that hog the system (again Puremusic). Fidelia would have been second, had I not settled for Audirvana already...Fidelia could be of special interest to all your BHA1 owners because of the new FHX module.

I'd be interested  in your experience with the free version of Audirvana, and whether you agree on the sonic differences this article describes. Lose the Itunes integration, lose the Izotope SRC but lose the pricetag too.

Marius

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Re: BDA-1 USB 192/24 ?!?
« Reply #39 on: 4 Sep 2012, 11:28 am »
Hi Marius,

Only problem I have run into is I can not seem to get the ITOUCH or IPAD to connect so I can use the remote in ITUNES.

james