Jet's get Tebow

rodge827 · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 09:21 pm »

Quote from: kbuzz3 on 22 Mar 2012, 08:58 pm

Ok will abide by the policy. Although I dont think anyone would disagree that by now tebow as a noun, verb or adjective as already entered the language as a religious connotation by defintion

Do "role model" comments violate the policy?

Tim Tebow is an NFL QB and that is the only way he should be referred to as on Audio Circle.

As far as I know "role model" comments do not violate policy, as long as said comments adhere to aforementioned A/C policy.

Good day,

Rodge

macrojack · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 09:31 pm »

Nobody is talking about anything fundamentally religious here. There has been no mention of any religion or any debate about the specifics of any religion in this thread. The policy, if I understand it correctly, is in place to prevent arguments about religion not to prevent obscure references to religion as a generic topic.

Overreaching warnings do nothing to prevent problems and can, in fact, be problems in and of themselves.

Tebow may as well be forbidden as a topic if his quirks and antics are going to be parsed according to misunderstanding of stipulated regulations. He throws like a girl (sexist). He genuflects to bring luck his way (religious) or (superstitious). That one is open to interpretation if not debate. He talks slowly and seems dimwitted (handicappist). He does not have the fundamental (hope that word is OK) techniques needed for modification of style. He is not a diamond in the rough. Eli Manning (since he has been used as an example here) came into the league with the ability to throw a screen pass. Tebow can't. Eli came in able to lead a receiver downfield with accuracy. With Tebow it's always a hold your breath moment. He misses more than he makes. If it weren't for incredibly acrobatic catches by Daniel Fells and Brandon LLoyd, Tebows abysmal completion percentage would have been much worse. Tebow would need a complete restructuring of his basic constitution in order to become an NFL passer. In a passing league, that's what is needed. That wildcat thing is college play and can be stopped by NFL DCs who game plan for it. So it may enjoy some success as an occasional switch off change up but it will not carry a team very far against a strong schedule. Heaven knows!!

soundbitten1 · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 09:46 pm »

Quote from: rodge827 on 22 Mar 2012, 08:55 pm

Audio Circle does have a no religion policy

Perfect! I have no religion.

rodge827 · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 10:03 pm »

As noted in my reply (post#17) to post #14 (which has since been modified) kbuzz3 did directly take some over the top jabs at rollo's request to not target Tim Tebow's faith.

The highlighted quote in post #17 is the original that was posted before modification.

The intent was to remind kbuzz3 of the current A/C policy.

We can all use semantics to get our message across and cry "no foul" all day long. Perhaps taking a step back and understanding the spirit of the policy is in order.

Good day,

Rodge

macrojack · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 10:14 pm »

Rodge - I told you rather plainly my understanding of the spirit of the policy in post #20. It would be useful for you to acknowledge that it is at least equal to your own.
You are coming across here as a religious prig yourself when you assume the right to impose your standards across the board.

No one has said anything untoward or inappropriate in this thread. The "no religion" policy has not been breached, and no one but you seems to be having a problem with the content.

It might be considered a violation of the policy when someone's trying to stir up trouble by complaining about mere hints. There has been only oblique reference and it has not escalated. In fact, you are the only one making anything of it.

Go stick your nose in THE BOOK and let intelligence prevail. Pretty please.

rodge827 · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 10:37 pm »

My initial reply was to kbuzz3 as a kind reminder of AC Policy for the specific reason that some may find his response offensive.

Macrojack you decided to jump in with an intelligent diatribe of your opinion.

Look, we could do this all day long...So let's agree to disagree and get this thread back to Tim Tebow and the Jets.

BTW, I wish nothing but the best for Tim Tebow and the Jets

Rodge

macrojack · « **Reply #26 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 11:16 pm »

My initial reply was to kbuzz3 as a kind reminder of AC Policy for the specific reason that some may find his response offensive.
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Look, Rodge -

If some find his response offensive, let us rely on them to say so. They are big boys and girls and can fend for themselves. You don't want to be their nanny, do you?

If you are the one who finds his words offensive, man up and speak on your own behalf rather than imaginary third parties.

I think your objections are the only matter that took us off topic. Now that we are back, let's stay there.

And please understand that, as hard as I may seem in my comments on Tebow, they are meant to be objective assessments. I don't hate him or wish him ill. I did, however, watch every Bronco game last season. My comments are based entirely upon the way he played and the mitigating factors that assisted him in his success. I just don't believe he can recreate that success reliably under less favorable circumstances. They're coming his way.

And the Denver press that was jingoistically forgiving and understandably surprised treated him much more kindly than the New York media will. Brace yourself.

jackman · « **Reply #27 on:** 22 Mar 2012, 11:49 pm »

Macro, I'd have more respect for you if you just came out and spoke your true feelings about Tebow. You hide behind the "luck" comments and give the guy no credit for any of the great things he did for the Broncos last year. He's far from being a complete QB and may never be one, but he had a better season than anyone expected after being thrown into the mix for a 1-4 team. This guy has been "lucky" his whole life!

Also, I don't understand the bitterness and anger directed towards Tebow. Okay, maybe he's not a good "traditional" QB, and maybe he will never be one. He's a decent kid and I've never heard him complain or speak out like so many of the punks that are too common in today's intoday's pro sports.

The NY media can be brutal, but they love an underdog. Look at the Jeremy Lin situation. Another young guy who I'm rooting for.

macrojack · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 12:19 am »

Good point about Jeremy Lin. Keep in mind though that he had the element of surprise going for him. No one expected anything when, out of the blue, he took control of games and posted good numbers. Tebow has never really been an unknown coming out of nowhere. Maybe that won't matter.

One thing they have in common is joining up with directionless teams.

Not bitter toward Tebow. Put that card back in your deck. He is what he is, whatever that is. I'm just letting people know that the media has inflated his image far beyond any point it will ever inflate itself. Kinda reminds me of the inflation job done for a former Alaskan.

I think the Patriots are the scariest thing out there. They just acquired a third tight end. His name is Daniel Fells. Ask Tim about him.

jimdgoulding · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 12:39 am »

Good post, Macro. Gave me a laugh, too.

kbuzz3 · « **Reply #30 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 01:26 am »

Quote from: jimdgoulding on 23 Mar 2012, 12:39 am

Good post, Macro. Gave me a laugh, too.

Amen

Also as macro pointed out my post were not disparaging of his religion. I was only pointing out that when folks come to NY religion has been a factor whether asked for (Hillary and amare ) or not (see David Cohen point above)

I also objected strenuously to role model comments which one IMHO are wrong and two are in this case thinly based religious references anyway.

I think the role model issue is open game here and non violative of any religious policy.

macrojack · « **Reply #31 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 01:38 am »

Uh Oh - Senator Dick Durbin is organizing a committee to look into the bounty system in professional sports. Does that put the subject off limits due to political implications?

Letitroll98 · « **Reply #32 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 02:53 am »

Maybe, but that's another thread.

I think everyone here agrees Tebow is a great football player, great quarterback? Not so much. The question is can he be one. I've been told by NFL scouts that the first thing to look for in a NFL quarterback prospect is decision making, the is second passing accuracy. Tebow is woefully short on both. I love the kid and wish nothing but great things for him, I hope he changes my mind and makes me eat my words, but I don't project him to be a starting QB in the NFL for any extended period.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #33 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 04:47 am »

Get'm while their ....hot...

Æ · « **Reply #34 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 07:45 am »

Quote from: macrojack on 22 Mar 2012, 07:07 pm

This a wasted post. I'm trying to post a picture from my iPhoto library. No luck. People have tried in the past to show me how - hopeless.

Why is this so convoluted?

I will email this to someone who wants to post it for me. I'm quite DISfunctional outside the AC system.

First export the picture/photo from your iPhoto to somewhere convenient such as your Desktop or to any other folder. Then when attaching a pic with your post, tell the Audio Circle "Insert Image" Dialog box where your picture is. I.E. Desktop or folder.
I use my Download folder not only for Downloading but also as my multi-purpose folder. It's where I'll export my iPhoto pictures before Uploading them to the internet.

macrojack · « **Reply #35 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 10:56 am »

AE - Thanks for directing me. I was trying to download it from iPhoto.

Æ · « **Reply #36 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 05:58 pm »

Quote from: macrojack on 23 Mar 2012, 10:56 am

AE - Thanks for directing me. I was trying to download it from iPhoto.

I see a funny picture, so obviously it works for you. Good. Always glad to be of assistance.

I always distinguish between "Download" and "Upload."
File(s) received from the internet, onto your computer is downloading.
File(s) sent from your computer to the internet or to some other computer is uploading.

rollo · « **Reply #37 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 07:00 pm »

Let me speak for myself, thankyou. All I wanted to get across before the nonsense started is keep his religion out of it, that is all. I never said anyone did so so far.
As far as a role model as a coach we would love to have him around. Solid, great attitude, educated, hard worker and team player. What is bad about that ? His short stint with a 1-4 team was pretty good. Yes he has to get some NFL experience like all before him. We wish him luck and success.
It should be interesting to see how the Jet's use him, if they use him at all. They may just trade him for a draft pick or a needed pass rusher.

charles

rollo · « **Reply #38 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 07:10 pm »

Kbuzz3 why IYO is he not a good role model. Hard worker, team player, coachable, Gentleman, solid, willing to learn, respectfull, family orientated and very friendly to the kids seeking autographs. What is so bad that you object, curious only not looking to start any flame wars, thankyou.

charles

macrojack · « **Reply #39 on:** 23 Mar 2012, 08:12 pm »

Every professional athlete is a role model. How good a role model may correlate to how much is known about his/her personal life. Tim Tebow has been under the spotlight incessantly since he arrived in Denver and nothing untoward has been identified. Therefore, it would be difficult to argue that he is anything but stellar in that regard.

The New York press may dig something up where our guys out here in Podunk failed. For now, though, it must be said that Timmy is a shining example.