BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER

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odessamarin

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1200 on: 8 Apr 2019, 01:00 pm »
Have you tried using the BHA-1 balanced input with some other source? Input stage of an amplifier can overload with a high voltage signal. However, I checked the Schiit website and it states a maximum output of 4 V for the Iggy, therefore the same as a Bryston BDA-2 so this shouldn't be an issue.

Yes I did.. Bryston BDA-1, Hugo TT, Gustrad x20, all balanced connected with Bryston and all good!
This Bryston "allergy" to Schiit Yggdrasil  is very interesting to understand and eventually resolve.
Seems it somehow bryston amp too sensitive to yggdrasil form balanced input. Strangely not by voltage (it is not higher then other DACs, i measured, it's 4,22 to be precise), but something like resistance/current intolerance between them?
What is interpreting, if I still use balanced interface between Bryston and Yggy BUT use single ended output for headphones instead of balanced output... all sound perfect again. As i understand in this case Bryston will use just half of its power.. 
I am going to try  -10dB attenuators for XLR connection and see if it may help. But really looking for the way to decrease Bryston gain.
From other comments I've seen some other amps often implement attenuation select for balanced input. Apparently briston do need it as well to be more friendly and universal.
Any help how to decrease Bryston gain is vert welcome. I have 2 Bryston amps, and want to modify one to be less powerful! please help.

.. and considering i have this non linearity strongly in low spectrum. It like bass depression. This seem like sort of overload at some stage.

UPDATE
Get reply form Bryston about eventual mod.
The mod can reduces overall gain by around 12db in both modes (High and Low), leaving around 2 db and 8 db of gain.
For details you need to contact Bryston support directly.

XLR in line attenuators -10dB arrived.. balanced output improved a bit, but still single ended output is much better when yggdrassil connected to Bryston via balanced XLR.
« Last Edit: 9 Apr 2019, 07:23 am by odessamarin »

R. Daneel

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1201 on: 10 Apr 2019, 09:08 am »
Yes I did.. Bryston BDA-1, Hugo TT, Gustrad x20, all balanced connected with Bryston and all good!
This Bryston "allergy" to Schiit Yggdrasil  is very interesting to understand and eventually resolve.
Seems it somehow bryston amp too sensitive to yggdrasil form balanced input. Strangely not by voltage (it is not higher then other DACs, i measured, it's 4,22 to be precise), but something like resistance/current intolerance between them?
What is interpreting, if I still use balanced interface between Bryston and Yggy BUT use single ended output for headphones instead of balanced output... all sound perfect again. As i understand in this case Bryston will use just half of its power.. 
I am going to try  -10dB attenuators for XLR connection and see if it may help. But really looking for the way to decrease Bryston gain.
From other comments I've seen some other amps often implement attenuation select for balanced input. Apparently briston do need it as well to be more friendly and universal.
Any help how to decrease Bryston gain is vert welcome. I have 2 Bryston amps, and want to modify one to be less powerful! please help.

.. and considering i have this non linearity strongly in low spectrum. It like bass depression. This seem like sort of overload at some stage.

UPDATE
Get reply form Bryston about eventual mod.
The mod can reduces overall gain by around 12db in both modes (High and Low), leaving around 2 db and 8 db of gain.
For details you need to contact Bryston support directly.

XLR in line attenuators -10dB arrived.. balanced output improved a bit, but still single ended output is much better when yggdrassil connected to Bryston via balanced XLR.

Okay. If BHA-1 has no problems with overload which can manifest itself as distortion with other DACs in your collection, then all should be well with it. Your Schiit DAC is likely the problem then. Either due to non-standard pin arrangement on it's XLR connectors or due to a failure or manufacturing fault in it's circuit. How does your Iggy work with other equipment through it's balanced output? Also, be sure to test your cables with other equipment and make sure they do not cause any issues.

jcn3

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1202 on: 3 May 2019, 02:43 am »
I brought home a BHA-1 to try out today.  I also have a Yggy and i didn't hsve any problems connecting it with the BHA-1 -- it sounded great.  Like others,  the issue i ran into was the gain as a preamp - could barely move the volume control before exceeding my normal listening levels.

Will be investigating the lower gain option!

jcn3

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1203 on: 3 Jun 2019, 04:31 pm »
I brought home a BHA-1 to try out today.  I also have a Yggy and i didn't hsve any problems connecting it with the BHA-1 -- it sounded great.  Like others,  the issue i ran into was the gain as a preamp - could barely move the volume control before exceeding my normal listening levels.

Will be investigating the lower gain option!

got my black, low-gain bha-1 a couple of weeks ago.  it's wonderful -- my system has never sounded better.

with the low gain option and the gain switch on high, everything works great.  as a pre-amp, the comfortable volume range is now 9-11 o'clock.  as a headphone amp with hd600s, comfortable volume range is now around 10-11.

highly recommend this option for those exploring the bha-1 as a pre-amp.

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1204 on: 5 Jun 2019, 11:30 pm »
got my black, low-gain bha-1 a couple of weeks ago.  it's wonderful -- my system has never sounded better.

with the low gain option and the gain switch on high, everything works great.  as a pre-amp, the comfortable volume range is now 9-11 o'clock.  as a headphone amp with hd600s, comfortable volume range is now around 10-11.

highly recommend this option for those exploring the bha-1 as a pre-amp.

It almost seems like this should be a built in option.

R. Daneel

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1205 on: 15 Jun 2019, 09:42 am »
Hi!

Can you choose a custom value of gain and are the low and high gain settings independent of  dependent of each other?

Cheers!
Antun

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1206 on: 29 Jun 2019, 04:12 pm »
I'm unaffiliated but a happy owner, and thought I'd link what looks like a nice deal that showed up this morning on Audiogon, for anyone out there considering a purchase.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9fb84-bryston-bha-1-solid-state


jcn3

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1207 on: 12 Jul 2019, 07:51 pm »
Hi!

Can you choose a custom value of gain and are the low and high gain settings independent of  dependent of each other?

Cheers!
Antun

no -- you can order a low gain version (no option on the amount of gain) which is applied universally, lowering the gain on both switch positions

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1208 on: 20 Jul 2019, 12:05 am »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston BHA-1 Headphone Amp Review

 July, 2019

Hi Folks

Please see below a very detailed review of the Bryston BHA-1 Headphone amplifier compared to a variety of other excellent headphone amplifiers.


http://www.headphoneer.com/bryston-bha-1-review/

R. Daneel

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Re: BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
« Reply #1209 on: 20 Jul 2019, 03:14 pm »
no -- you can order a low gain version (no option on the amount of gain) which is applied universally, lowering the gain on both switch positions

Yes, well, then that option is somewhat limited for my selection of headphones.

What is the gain on the "low gain" model?

Cheers!
Antun