[ricardojoa]

Hi guys,
i have a question regarding acoustic panels thickness. As i understand, GIK panels have an additional 1.5'' gap behind the insulation to create a better effectiveness of the absortion of sound of the panels. For  example, their 2 inches insulation panels have 3.5 '' thickness. How would these compare to panels that are 4'' thick with 4'' insulation like what ATS and acoustimac offer.
The ATS 4'' bass trap is slightly more expensive then GIK 242 2 inch panels but uses 4'' insulation. I would guess the thicker insulation would be better. What do you guys think?

[bpape]

If you're looking for a bass absorber, in our line it would be the 244, not the 242. The 244 is 4" of insulation and a 1" gap behind it.  The price is an additional $10 per panel of the price of a 242.

Bryan

[Glenn Kuras]

For  example, their 2 inches insulation panels have 3.5 '' thickness. How would these compare to panels that are 4'' thick with 4'' insulation like what ATS and acoustimac offer.

You can always go to our testing and compare it that way. Also keep in mind that not only the air gap helps, but the 244 and so on are made with a 2 frame build to not only create the air gap but also let sound in from the sides. As far as I know most companies just make a frame, which works but also covers the sides which covers up a lot of absorptive area.

Glenn Kuras
GIK Acoustics
www.gikacoustics.com

[DTB300]

I would buy the GIK products as Bryan and Glenn are here to help (posting on forum) as is Ethan from Real Traps.  I have yet to see an ATS person here assisting people with proper acoustical treatment questions.

Support the people who are here to support us....

[bluemike]

I would buy the GIK products as Bryan and Glenn are here to help (posting on forum) as is Ethan from Real Traps.  I have yet to see an ATS person here assisting people with proper acoustical treatment questions.

Support the people who are here to support us....

I whole heartedly agree

[ricardojoa]

Dont get me wrong. Im not saying that ATS is better. My concern is more towards air space. For comparable overall thickness 3.5'' from GIK and ATS 4''. In other words, if i can use 3.5'' thickness from the wall space i might just go ahead and use the 4'' from ATS. ATS uses 4'' of fiber compare to 2'' from GIK. Now my question would be, can the additional gap from the back wall actually works better then the 4'' thick panels that doesnt have any gap?
I know i should be comparing to the GIK 244, but i just cant afford to give out 5.5''  thickness of the wall. The most i can go is 4'' of the wall.
If GIK can make their bass trap for 4'', i would definetly consider them. No question.
This is more of a concern regarding thicknes rather then the actual performace or price. This happens when people like me live in a small space, the actual air space becomes important.

[bpape]

We can certainly make a custom 4" panel for you. I would have to check on the price.  What the difference in performance between their 4" and our 242 would depend on how it is placed in the room.

We do 5" as it's what is required to get a significant increase in performance and to reach the goals we expect from a product that we market as a broadband absorber.

Bryan

[Skye]

The thicker the trap, the lower frequencies it will absorb. However, if you space a trap of a given distance away from the wall by up to its thickness, the low frequency absorption will improve. However, if you can afford to, it is better still to fill that gap with absorption as well.

So, if you have 4" and are trying to absorb bass, know that a 2" trap directly on the wall won't do much. A 2" trap held 2" away from the wall is better, but a 4" trap is better still.

Of course, benchmarks speak louder than theory. And customer service and price are also factors.

[ricardojoa]

We can certainly make a custom 4" panel for you. I would have to check on the price.  What the difference in performance between their 4" and our 242 would depend on how it is placed in the room.

We do 5" as it's what is required to get a significant increase in performance and to reach the goals we expect from a product that we market as a broadband absorber.

Bryan

Totally understood Bryan. A custom work is definetly in a good direction.