yes!!! A guy emailed me, saying he had a mint cherry pair for 800 bucks!!! Very excited, I spoke to Fritz Heiler the other day on the phone and besides obviously recommending his speakers he highly recommended the sapphire xl, so I'm very happy I can get one at a good used price. And there is a force XL in Seattle. And I sold some car subwoofers (back when the main thing I liked about audio was bass - I've come a long way). I am very, very excited!