Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs

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Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« on: 12 Nov 2010, 07:42 am »
This is a PSA for all current and potential iMac users. There is high probability to deeply scratch/ruin a DVD or CD using the built in media slot on the side. I've had my iMac for a couple of months now and I guess I have been unconsciously very careful in the insertion/removal of the CDs since I haven't experienced what happened today.

Today I inserted the a DVD into the iMac. After a few minutes I decided to watch the instructional DVD on my TV in the other room so I ejected the DVD. Playing it back on my Panasonic BluRay it started to skip and ultimately froze. Checking for dust I discovered a 1 inch wide pattern of parallel deep scratches on the bottom. Of course I was surprised since I had just opened this sealed DVD before playing.

I knew that the slot for the superdrive on the side of the imac is extremely crisp in appearance--it's part of the Apple industrial design language.  As a test I grabbed an old CD and intentionally was not careful during the insertion of the CD--not rough or clumsy, just making sure there was a slight angle during removal. That causes the disc to touch the very sharp outer edge of the slot, resulting in scratching. This can occur on disc insertion or removal. The rear enclosure of the imac is metal and the slot edge has a zero radius, therefore extremely sharp.

After a quick web search, I found (many) reports of disc scratching as far back as 2007 on multiple mac forums. the slot design has been the same since those versions.

My MacBook Pro 2,2 (non-unibody) is also metal but has a small step around the slot opening, slightly reducing the chance for scratching. But likely still possible, I do not recall any discs being damaged due to scraping.  My old Powerbook had a small plastic ring around the slot-this completely prevents damage.

As an industrial designer who has designed products with disc slots this situation makes me mad. When I run into one of the Apple ID folks, down the road, I am surely going to ask what they were thinking--I hope they don't say Steve made me do it. Especially knowing that iMacs are typically family computers with a good chance that kids of all ages will be users, having to carefully align a DVD/CD into the slot to prevent scratching is an unrealistic usability scenario.

The good news is that my iMac played most of the deeply scratched DVD which caused the BluRay player to choke. But thanks Apple for damaging my $30 DVD.

So be careful with your rare CDs if you are using an iMac as a music server.

skunark

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Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #1 on: 12 Nov 2010, 08:23 am »
I've used slot loading drives on both macs, PCs and a few cars and never had an issue..  I suppose if you were rough on the entry or ejection, then I can see how it might cause damage...

low.pfile

Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #2 on: 12 Nov 2010, 04:07 pm »
I've used slot loading drives on both macs, PCs and a few cars and never had an issue..  I suppose if you were rough on the entry or ejection, then I can see how it might cause damage...
The issue is that even lightly handling the disc can cause scratches--it isn't necessary to be rough. The metal edges are sharp....

low.pfile

Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #3 on: 12 Nov 2010, 04:23 pm »
I waited till morning to take a few snaps of the slot and scratches. it was difficult to capture the scratches. not much time but we all know what scratches look like. the pattern though is telling though: a defined flat side and scratches moving away from that.



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And there is a fix I have to mention: good ol scotch tape. I use the low tack version, just slightly folded over the long edges.

skunark

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Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #4 on: 13 Nov 2010, 12:37 am »
That's a great solution, but if you think the drive is misaligned, you might run it to an apple store if you have one near by.   

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Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #5 on: 14 Nov 2010, 12:13 am »
Since I tend to rip a lot of CDs, I've long ago stopped using the internal CD/DVD drives on my Macs. For $60-100 you can get an excellent (fast and safe) external CD/DVD drive and save the built-in drive for software installations. The drive mechanisms that Apple uses (typically Matshita) are not high quality. I've had good luck with the OWC external drives (I had a Plextor, which are supposed to be good, but it's been very flaky, having trouble loading undamaged discs). http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MRF82SD22/

Yeah, it would be better if Apple's slot-loading drives didn't scratch discs, but slot-loading drives present problems even without the little dust flaps that Apple puts on there. They pinch the disc between rollers on loading and ejecting, and any bit of grit that gets on those rollers can scratch discs as well. I had one on my last MacBook that had some internal goo get onto the rollers, and I had to clean each disc after I put it in there.

Tray loading external drives are a lot more reliable and safer as well.

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Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #6 on: 14 Nov 2010, 02:22 am »
The sharp edges on the Macbook Air are extremely uncomfortable on my hands.
I'm in the process of importing my cds with the mac mini and notice the slot is not as smooth as it could be.

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Re: Design fail: Disc scratching problem with iMacs
« Reply #7 on: 14 Nov 2010, 07:03 am »
I've imported hundreds upon hundreds of CD's into my iMac over about 2 years and never had a problem...either I'm really lucky or its not a widespread issue? I dunno. I also check the discs before I put them back in the case (blame my OCD) but I've honestly never had a problem.