down firing subwoofer on a tile floor

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R_burke

down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« on: 10 Nov 2010, 09:11 pm »
How big of a problem is this and is there anything I can do to minimize the problem if there is one

Moving is not an option, nor is anything drastic being done to the floor

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #1 on: 11 Nov 2010, 02:00 am »
The question is....is it a problem to you?

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #2 on: 11 Nov 2010, 02:51 am »
For a sub, it shouldn't make any difference.  The bass frequencies wouldn't even 'see' carpet there if it was there.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #3 on: 11 Nov 2010, 04:05 am »
One way to reduce the 'echo slap' from the downward force against the floor, is to put a cone on the floor under the woofer outlet. I have a parabolic cone (from an old cheap speaker I found at a Goodwill) that I filled with dampening material, the parabolic cone is about 10 inches in diameter.
It did make a difference. (it is like a funnel shape except the sides curve)
Making one out of wood would work, even if the shape was not perfect.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #4 on: 11 Nov 2010, 04:19 am »
Could you put a small rug under the sub? That might help smooth things a bit.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #5 on: 16 Nov 2010, 06:46 pm »
What's more important is the construction quality of the floor vs. its material.  I live in a crappy apartment building built in the '70s and a SubDude HD http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDudeHD worked well for my application.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #6 on: 16 Nov 2010, 06:59 pm »
One way to reduce the 'echo slap' from the downward force against the floor, is to put a cone on the floor under the woofer outlet. I have a parabolic cone (from an old cheap speaker I found at a Goodwill) that I filled with dampening material, the parabolic cone is about 10 inches in diameter.
It did make a difference. (it is like a funnel shape except the sides curve)
Making one out of wood would work, even if the shape was not perfect.

I'm not sure what difference you thought it made, but an 80hz wave is 14 feet long ... a 10" cone is completely acoustically transparent to a 14' long wave.  Maybe raising the sub enough to fit the cone under it is responsible for the 'difference', not the cone itself. 

As Nils mentions, the rigidity of the floor is a consideration.  Some sort of damping of mechanical vibrations can help from exciting resonances in the floor itself.  But large subwoofers can generate on the order of 2-5 hp, yes horsepower ... a 10 pound platform with rubber feet isn't going to do much to mitigate that. 

Point being, don't worry about it being a tile floor.  Just focus on placement and EQ if possible for the best integration.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #7 on: 18 Nov 2010, 10:08 pm »
Ceramic tiles on a concrete slab floor.  My concern is the bass getting out of hand due to "bouncing", guess I'll wait and see if it is a problem or not.

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Re: down firing subwoofer on a tile floor
« Reply #8 on: 18 Nov 2010, 11:03 pm »
It's going to bounce off the floor no matter what the floor material is.  Carpet isn't even there for those bass waves.  It's going to find the hard surface underneath and come off of that.

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