Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?

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Rob Babcock

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #20 on: 11 Aug 2010, 09:53 am »
I agree with the smooth steel, too...with one notable exception.  Hand American makes a very lightly grooved glass hone that's absolutely the best product I've ever seen.  It's worthless on knives under 60 Rockwell C, but for harder knives it's incredible.

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #21 on: 11 Aug 2010, 01:20 pm »
Tell me more about "smooth steel" sharpening?

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #22 on: 11 Aug 2010, 01:29 pm »
I have and use a ceramic shaft for honing. Since this is AC I want to mention that i found some large power supply fuses that work just as well, just need a handle.
the fuse says AMZ 200 T 2.0 / 12 KVAC B1 E02 A01 on it.

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #23 on: 11 Aug 2010, 02:08 pm »
Tell me more about "smooth steel" sharpening?

I don't really think of it as sharpening so much as polishing and maintaining a sharp edge.

I use a smooth steel as the very last step when sharpening a blade. It's already very sharp at that point, but the smooth steel seems to polish or finish it and add an extra bit of sharpness.
(I think there's a lot of disagreement as to what's actually happening in these last steps, no matter what method or tool you're using. )

With a kitchen knife, I'll usually give it a couple of strokes on the smooth steel every 5 minutes or so. This seems to make the edge last longer so I don't have to resharpen as often.


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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #24 on: 11 Aug 2010, 06:20 pm »
I foolishly decided to buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/Minosharp-3-Sharpener-Grey-Black/dp/B000WZFBOS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1281233857&sr=1-3

It was worthless and is going back. 

Luckily, I also decided to try this, which works great for a quick hone/resharpen:

http://www.surlatable.com/product/cutlery/sharpeners+%26+steels/ultimate+edge+diamond+sharpener.do?sortby=ourPicks

I use the Chefs Choice from Sur la Tab with great results

Rob Babcock

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #25 on: 11 Aug 2010, 09:28 pm »
Tell me more about "smooth steel" sharpening?

As Turkey says, you don't really sharpen with it, it just extends the time between sharpenings.  A ceramic hone can be used as a final step to deburr an edge but I don't do that, at least with kitchen knives.  The reason?  If I'm coming off a 15,000 grit synthetic waterstone, why would I want to drop down to a 2,000 grit hone?  It will basically take all that hard work of polishing right off the edge.  Sort of like getting out of the shower and drying off with a muddy towel! :lol:

The glass hone does help extend the edge, though.  Once you've used the knife long enough to noticeably dull it, the smooth hone (be it glass or steel) will help realign the steel at the edge, restoring the ability to cut.  Obviously, this can only be done for so long before the edge has been physically abraded away and there's nothing left to realign.  That knife must then be resharped by whatever method you prefer.

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #26 on: 12 Aug 2010, 01:00 pm »
Next question:
What are some good "smooth steel" products?

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Re: Knife Sharpening Question - Dealing with the burr?
« Reply #27 on: 12 Aug 2010, 03:29 pm »
Next question:
What are some good "smooth steel" products?

I use one from Razor Edge Systems called the Raz-R-Steel, plus I have one I made myself.

A friend gave me a piece of hardened and polished steel rod that he said was an axle originally. I drilled a hole in a piece of an old turned chair rung for a handle and I use this in the kitchen.