My visit to GR Research

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Dracule1

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My visit to GR Research
« on: 29 Jul 2010, 08:01 am »
I first met Danny at LSAF.  Danny kinda reminds me one of my head banger high school friend.  If you can imagine a southern version of Nigel from the cult classic, This Is Spinal Tap, you get my drift.  I soon realized this is a talented guy who provides high quality speakers for ridiculously low price. He told me about a big line array using BG Neo 10 drivers that he was designing. Told him I would one day visit him to listen to this speaker. Fast forward several months, I was in Dallas visiting a friend over the weekend, so I gave Danny a call.  He didn't have Neo 10 line array, but I still wanted to check out his place of work and some his speakers.  So Monday I made the 2 hour trip from Dallas to Wichita Falls area and came upon a quaint house in quiet country suburb. 

His living room had been converted to his listening room with plenty of room treatment.  He has one of the most impressive tube monoblocks I have ever seen.  It's a blue behemoth custom made by Gary Dodd with 6 KT88s per side and the biggest transformers I have ever seen on an amp.  His preamp was the battery powered Dodd tube preamp, and source was Tranquility DAC fed by Mac Mini. His work place was at the back of the house in a small room composed of a desk with a computer surrounded by numerous drivers, cross over components, various speakers at different stages of build, etc.  And he had huge storage containers in his back yard filled with more components.  He pretty much is a one man factory.

So my main reason for writing about this trip was tell you guys about his small 2-way (N1x?) and servo sub using the SW-12.  Mind you, this system is around $1000.  What I heard was tremendous dynamics, excellent imaging/staging, very good coherency, clean powerful extended bass (flat down to 20 Hz according Danny and I believe him), smooth midrange, snappy transients, and clean sparkling highs.  I couldn't believe I was listening to a $1000 system.  I don't know any system anywhere near this price that can give this kind of performance.  I would really have go to $4000+ speaker system for something more comparable.  We played rock (Eagles), jazz (Flim and the BBs), classical organ music (saw Danny's eyes glaze over so didn't drag the piece too long), female vocals...The speaker system shined through all of this.  We were listening pretty loud (probably 90+ dB during loud passages, above my comfort level).  Only when the music got excessively loud did I hear the small mid/woofer on the 2-way bottom out (the mid/woofer was run full with the subwoofer).  Given the price, the only negative comment, more like nit pick, I have about this system was that the highs can get aggressive with some recordings.  The planar magnetic tweeter is very revealing, and I can see situations (some transistor gears, bad pop/rock recordings, bright cables) this can be a drawback.  But I'm extremely sensitive to slightest aggresiveness in the high frequency.   If you don't mind a little DIY work and are on a budget, these are THE DIY kits to get.  I already have two pairs of 2-way speakers, so I really can't justify another pair 2-way at this time.  Otherwise, I would jump on these.  But I am planning to get a pair of the servo subwoofers.  According to Danny, there is a guy here on AC who will build a subwoofer cabinet for $150 to $300, depending on finish.  The driver is $149 and the direct servo subwoofer amp with EQ is $349.  So for ~$650, you can have a fully built subwoofer that will compete with any commercially available $2000 subwoofer.  Afterwards, we all (Danny's nice wife and friend) went out for some tasty Chinese food.

So this trip was productive and enjoyable for me.  I got to see an awesome "dude" at his place of work and shared some great music on one helluva system. 

tesseract

Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #1 on: 29 Jul 2010, 09:22 am »
Wow, that sounds like a blast! I hope Danny let you take a few pictures.   :no_see:

Dracule1

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Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #2 on: 31 Jul 2010, 09:57 pm »
 :duh:  I should have taken some pictures of Danny's place, but he's got some top secret projects that I can divulge or he'll have to kill me or anyone who sees the pictures :lol:

Danny Richie

Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #3 on: 31 Jul 2010, 11:17 pm »
It was nice having you over.

Those were the little N1's (Not the X version) that you were listening to.

Good ear on the highs. I should have actually towed them more straight ahead into the room. That's how I typically wind up setting those up. I designed them to have a smoother response at 10 degrees off axis or so. It will give you a wider sound stage that way. And it softens the highs.

I plopped them down right into the same spike marks in the carpet that the V-2's left behind. So that left them toed in towards you a little too much. I really didn't think about it as I was off axis to the left.

And yes were running them full range with a lot of power on them (playing Flim and the BB's) and I drove them to their limits. That is a pretty dynamic piece. Great for demo's.

Typically if I was going to be playing them like that, I would have left in the home made FMod that consists of an in line RCA with a Sonicap Platinum. We were using them when you got there playing the upper section of the V-2. It pulls of the lows off of them.

Dracule1 grew up in Southern California in the 80's, thus the "dude" comment. The 80's lingo was a conversation piece at dinner.  :thumb:

Rclark

Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #4 on: 1 Aug 2010, 05:55 am »
Hey Danny I saw pics of your amps and they look spectacular. they look like some sort of 70's intergalactic dreadnoughts that show up at the end of the movie when shields are down and Scotty can't get you any more damn power.

Can you describe them a little bit?

Danny Richie

Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #5 on: 1 Aug 2010, 05:12 pm »
Here is an old thread on the amps when they were being built.

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=40600.0

They have been around at RMAF a few times too:



Rclark

Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #6 on: 2 Aug 2010, 02:33 am »
Holy. Freaking. Cow. You are the man.

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Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #7 on: 2 Aug 2010, 02:37 am »
That was a great sounding setup at RMAF2008!  :D

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Re: My visit to GR Research
« Reply #8 on: 2 Aug 2010, 03:31 am »
That was a great sounding setup at RMAF2008!  :D
Yep, that combo would nail you to the wall!  Danny always played Bela Fleck and the Flecktones for me and I loved it.  Then I turned him on to Pete Belsaco's "Deeper" with the 18Hz 808 drop on it for demoing the Super V's... hehe, hehe   :lol:

I can hardly wait to see/hear what he comes up with for our new, bigger room at RMAF this year!  I've heard rumors...........  I ain't talkin'.................. :nono:

Dave