Coral beta 8 Cab

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joeling39

Coral beta 8 Cab
« on: 17 Aug 2009, 03:58 am »
Hi guys,

Just taken delivery of a pair of Coral Beta 8 BR cab over the weekend. Installed 1in. batting (like those used for DIY blankets) all round & lugged the pair upstairs to my listening room. Wasn't expecting much but boy was I in for a surprise. These are a completely different animals from the Beta 6.

The highs & mids were surprisingly good, as good or better than the Diatone with helper tweeter. The mid & lower bass were disappointing though. Worse than the Diatone without the helper sub woofer. How can I improve it ?





Regards,
Joe Ling

PS : I'm also thinking that as a next step, maybe should try out the factory plan for a BLH as shown :



The image shown above has only stuffing at the back of the driver & no where else. Is this right ?

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #1 on: 17 Aug 2009, 04:50 am »
If the Bass is low you can rise it by stuffing the inside the box with 20 or 30 mm foam. There is others materials too, as felt or blanket of cotton or wool.  But too much stuffing make the highs go down (very down) and the bass dominates.
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joeling39

Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #2 on: 17 Aug 2009, 05:13 am »
Ah I see, I'm pretty new to this. At the moment, my feeling is that there is a little too much high & not enough bottom. So, adding stuffing will help to balance things out ? That's great. Will try it tonight. Thanks !

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Joe Ling

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #3 on: 17 Aug 2009, 05:20 am »
Yes, it wil. As a touch of fine service I like to glue Foam at the back of the magnet too, (If the magnet have a Tunnel to cool the voice coil, do not do it).  Inform about the results...
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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #4 on: 18 Aug 2009, 05:05 am »
I built a couple of pair of the Coral BLH enclosures a while ago - certainly not as easy a build as a simple BR, or MLTL. Unfortunately, they were for an out of town client, who was understandably wary about shipping the NOS drivers, so I was never afforded the opportunity to hear them. 

If you decide to take these on, I'd make a couple of suggestions:
it probably wouldn't hurt to move the driver mounting plate flush with the side panels. Note that this will increase the volume of the driver chamber somewhat, so just do the math to calculate the amount, and fill the bottom of chamber with appropriate amount of wood blocks.  I'd also highly recommend Baltic Birch plywood vs MDF, but whichever you use, it would also  be a good idea to increase the number of internal braces (to form a continuous line of bracing from front to back), as well as a lateral brace in the horn mouth. (not built in the pictured group, but highly recommended)   

and finally,  and double and triple check the magnet's clearance to the first deflector panel before gluing up. 

The answer to the question captioned in the drawing, is "yes".  These are a classic BLH design offered to DIYers decades ago, when the minimal amount of damping material shown was the norm.  If you're really uncertain, and would like to experiment with stuffing levels, temporarily screw but don't glue the second side, and seal with self adhesive weatherstripping tape.

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=54093.0

joeling39

Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #5 on: 19 Aug 2009, 10:17 am »
Thanks guys !

I'll have to work on it some more.

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #6 on: 20 Sep 2009, 11:46 am »
I have had my Beta 8's in the BR cab and now they are in the BLH cab. The funny thing is my friend has his in a cab made for lowthers. The box size is 42"-H, 14"-W and 18"-D they have a rear 3" port 7 1/2" from the bottm. They are huge.

The point is his sound far better than either cab mine have been in. In fact I am going to build a pair to those demension. We have no way of knowing why Coral gave the designs they did (good size for livingrooms?). But to me they are clearly not the best as the 4 massive ports on the BR seem to suggest they could go in far bigger boxes.

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #7 on: 9 Dec 2010, 12:40 pm »
Hi
I am thinking of making said BLH (made specially) :dunno: for my lovely Beta 8´s. The drawing is straight forward, I miss though any mentioning of panel thickness. Are we talking 15-16mm or 19mm. ?
Can anybody help?  :cry:

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #8 on: 9 Dec 2010, 08:12 pm »
Hi
I am thinking of making said BLH (made specially) :dunno: for my lovely Beta 8´s. The drawing is straight forward, I miss though any mentioning of panel thickness. Are we talking 15-16mm or 19mm. ?
Can anybody help?  :cry:

3/4" (actually 18mm ) Baltic Birch plywood post veneered with Walnut was used on this build (Coral 8 & 10):







These were built from the standard Coral plans similar to those above.  Be very careful to confirm fit of magnet to first deflector panel before buttoning it up - it's a very close fit, and note that the deep recess on the driver mounting panel was eliminated on this group.

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Re: Coral beta 8 Cab
« Reply #9 on: 12 Dec 2010, 04:29 pm »
Thanks chrisby http://www.audiocircle.com/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif
It is much appreciated. Nice to be able to make ´em as intended.
Cheers! rappaport