Transformers(Not the Movie).

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drummermitchell

Transformers(Not the Movie).
« on: 22 Apr 2010, 01:10 pm »
Curious of what the difference is in the Latest SQ.transformers  in the 28s,14s and 7s,
and the transformers of about 3-6 months ago.
Is it a heat control thing or better power storage of the new ones.Would be intersted to know the real differences.
Is there major differences sonically between the two(without the caps).
                                    Inquiring minds would like to know.

Napalm

Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #1 on: 22 Apr 2010, 01:21 pm »
Curious of what the difference is in the Latest SQ.transformers  in the 28s,14s and 7s,
and the transformers of about 3-6 months ago.
Is it a heat control thing or better power storage of the new ones.Would be intersted to know the real differences.
Is there major differences sonically between the two(without the caps).
                                    Inquiring minds would like to know.

Some time ago I found an article on Plitron's site describing a magnetic core treatment that modifies the magnetic hysteresis cycle shape. To the effect of smaller start-up currents and better power storage. Might be related to this.

Nap.  :thumb:

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Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #2 on: 22 Apr 2010, 01:45 pm »
NEW POWER SUPPLY TRANSFORMER 7B, 14B, and 28B SST-2

The new SST22 transformers are designed specifically to have very high energy storage. It is a considerably more expensive way to design a transformer, and thus is almost never done, but it has clear advantages.
 
 A 'normal' linear amplifier power-supply is made up of a transformer, a bridge rectifier and a set of filter capacitors. The filter capacitors smooth the DC in the rectified waveform, and also store energy to supply large transient current demands from the speakers. The filter capacitors in turn are recharged by the transformer on each half-cycle. However, that recharging takes place on the very peaks of the 60Hz waveform, over only a few degrees of conduction. Thus, although the average current from the power cord is only a few Amperes, it is actually a series of very narrow, very high peaks of current, as much as 50 or more Amperes per half-cycle.
 
Those high, narrow peaks of current have a consequence. They equate to drops in Voltage from the power cord, from the wall socket, from the wiring leading to the house.  The audible consequence in turn impacts on focus, dynamics, depth of image, 'holography, etc.
 
A transformer designed for energy storage first and foremost, solves those issues. It recharges the filter capacitors directly from its own energy storage capacity, and then takes up the energy from the wall socket over the entire 60Hz waveform. Gone are the narrow peaks of 50+Amp current, gone are the Voltage drops, gone are the negative consequences for ultimate focus, dynamics, depth of image, etc. (Please understand these are subtle audible effects, though a trained listener can hear them, particularly in comparison listening).

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Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #3 on: 22 Apr 2010, 02:53 pm »
We have come such a long way...




Be well...

bummrush

Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #4 on: 22 Apr 2010, 02:59 pm »
  So James ,if a transformer does all this ,does a person really need line conditioning  etc and all the other million boxes people add on ,,i guess i can see surge protection if somebody wants that.To me it sounds like  a very good transformer is one of the very basics for good sound.I would think a very good transformer is expensive,, correct.

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Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #5 on: 22 Apr 2010, 03:04 pm »
  So James ,if a transformer does all this ,does a person really need line conditioning  etc and all the other million boxes people add on ,,i guess i can see surge protection if somebody wants that.To me it sounds like  a very good transformer is one of the very basics for good sound.I would think a very good transformer is expensive,, correct.

Yes a good transformer and power supply is critical to good performance.  These changes in transformer design really only applies to very large power amplifiers being able to respond to transient conditions as required. Power line conditioning products (Torus) offer other benefits as well - surge protection being one of them of course as you say.

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drummermitchell

Re: Transformers(Not the Movie).
« Reply #6 on: 22 Apr 2010, 03:25 pm »
James even though the latest transformers and caps audibly outperform the former ones(3-6 month ago).
What do they do Musically compared to the older ones,more stage,more separation on individual notes,capture more of essence each instrument.
I'm no technical type :o,I relate to the music,end result if you will.
Even though I have three Torus(s)I think even upgrading my transformers in the 28s would still
give more musical satisfaction,correct, even though perhaps suttle.