DIY project Speakers

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chgolatin2

DIY project Speakers
« on: 21 Feb 2010, 03:09 pm »
Hello, I have a pair of PSB-B25 speakers I recently contacted the skiinninja to upgrade the current crossover network, now I am curious since this is the first time that I will do any DIY project w speakers.  The internal wiring looks cheaply made I would like to upgrade all of the internal wiring, now what kind of wires can I use or should I use that will make a lil bit of a difference and improve the sound?  Also, what about solder material?  What kind  :scratch:  Should I just buy cable at Home Depot and replace the current ones or can someone recommend a better option? 

Thank you!

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #1 on: 21 Feb 2010, 10:25 pm »
Regular two-conductor speaker wire of a sufficient gauge will be fine (12-16awg).

As for solder, regular 60/40 rosin-core will work great, or you can use one with silver mixed in :)

Just stay away from acid-core or water-soluble mixes. Bad news.

chgolatin2

Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #2 on: 22 Feb 2010, 04:12 am »
Cool, thanks I used a 12g wire from Monster cable, it was a silver/copper combined.  did all the work to the speakers but in actuality I really didnt notice any improvement :(  :scratch: :roll:

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« Reply #3 on: 22 Feb 2010, 01:32 pm »
You're not alone in that :)

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« Reply #4 on: 22 Feb 2010, 02:47 pm »
You're not alone in that :)

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Very true.

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #5 on: 22 Feb 2010, 03:23 pm »
Not surprised that rewiring had little effect.  Im my experience, your biggest bang for the buck is usually additional bracing and dampening in the cabinet.  Next would be upgrading caps.

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #6 on: 23 Feb 2010, 12:29 am »
Others are correct, internal wiring is not an area where you are likely to notice a signicant change.  You can get what you need at Radio Shack or call Parts Express or Madisound and they'll fix you up.

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #7 on: 23 Feb 2010, 01:36 am »
Original poster, thanks for your honesty.  You are in rare company!  You are one of the rare people who admits to NOT hearing a difference with a mod (albiet internal wire swap is not a major mod).  I can't say the same for the other 99% of audio enthusiasts.  Realistically, you may benefit a bit from some bracing in those cabinets or maybe a cap upgrade but don't expect miracles.  It always makes me a bit leery when I read about a guy who switches to brass screws on his drivers, or uses lead shot instead of sand on his CDP, or some other minor change - remember green markers on CD's! -  and suddenly a "veil was lifted" and he was hearing miraculous improvements to a modest system.  Give me a break.

I've heard improvements with modded gear over the years, modded Squeezebox, modded CDP, improved IC's, etc. but these were pretty extensive modifications.  Several mods I've tried over the years (power cords, internal speaker wiring, external crossovers, expensive inductors, even expensive caps in crossovers, etc.) didn't make a difference as far as my ears could tell.  And, like most audiophiles, my tests were not double blind.  It's refreshing to hear from a guy like the OP who admits to not hearing an improvement from a mod.  He is definitely in the minority and he has my respect!

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #8 on: 23 Feb 2010, 06:06 pm »
Why would you use a different speaker cable inside the box as outside?

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #9 on: 28 Feb 2010, 06:44 pm »
That's a very good question and something I've wondered about a number of times.  So much so that now I wire my diy speakers using the same type wire that runs from my amp.

I can't make any sense out of doing it differently.

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Re: DIY project Speakers
« Reply #10 on: 28 Feb 2010, 06:49 pm »
That's a very good question and something I've wondered about a number of times.  So much so that now I wire my diy speakers using the same type wire that runs from my amp.

Yeah, but what a pain when you decide to change speaker cables.
 
Steve