Stereo & Mono recordings

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Stereo & Mono recordings
« on: 23 Feb 2010, 01:54 pm »
I have spent a little time at a basic recording studio. Their mic set up is this: 6 channels into a mono output. They play bluegrass. The sound is incredible! They know how to mic their vocals and instruments perfectly.

What I said was this: I believe some recordings sound good in mono, better than in stereo. However, since they do everything in mono, I suggested setting up a three channel system: Left, Right & Center. The center channel could play mono through the L & R channels. I thought a little dimension was needed with some of their songs. A 24 bit/96Khz Tascam A-D converter is being used for the mixer/capture device.

What is your take on mono & stereo recordings?

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Re: Stereo & Mono recordings
« Reply #1 on: 23 Feb 2010, 02:30 pm »
Stereo only, please :)

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Re: Stereo & Mono recordings
« Reply #2 on: 23 Feb 2010, 03:45 pm »
Oh, boy. This topic can be a real bag of snakes.

A mono recording is much closer to how people actually hear and process sound. Our two ears allow us to determine the direction of a given sound, and because sound can't reach both of our ears at the same time, we get spatial information.

Just like a single microphone.

Sure, there are plenty of amazing stereo recordings from Alan Parsons, Pink Floyd, etc. But as time goes by, the recordings I come back to the most are the ones where you can hear the band playing in the room together. You can really hear the difference in phase, coherency, etc. of the recording.

20+ years ago, I remember an article in Mix, where a guy had converted a Studer 2", 24-track rig to mono. He dropped in a full-width head, and kept the tape speed around 30 IPS. I seem to remember the numbers being staggeringly good. However, I don't know that it was ever used outside of a lab setting. Does this ring bells with anyone?

In short, if we are talking about making a stereo (or in the case of Ambisonics, surround) recording using a single microphone, or going to a three track style recording (see below), I'm in. Otherwise, I prefer mono.

To address a couple of things in the OP, your three channel recommendation is almost what three-track systems originally were. Mostly used for classical recordings (but occasionally shows up in odd places, like Skip Spence's record), the engineers strung up a three-mic spread. They would sum all three channels for a mono release, and split the center channel information left and right for stereo (which is actually more like dual mono).

If you are going to play with three channel, I would suggest trying out the Shel Talmy approach: He used three mics into the space, not across it. Given the instruments and material, you might get some interesting (and useful) results.

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Re: Stereo & Mono recordings
« Reply #3 on: 25 Feb 2010, 01:04 pm »
Excellent information. Thank you!  :D

I like the 'cohesion' of well recorded mono music. But I like the sound stage of well recorded stereo music. The enveloping sensation that well recorded music has is thrilling. I like music that can make a stereo system perform at its peak, really test it!

The choice of speakers has allot to do with perception: I recently hooked up a pair of 2-way Pioneer speakers as monitors. They have a range of 60 to 20K and do it very well. The floor standing speakers have a wider response, but can't seem to image as well as the monitors. What I mean is: The floor standing speakers (Polks) sound like 'dual mono'. The monitors will make you feel like there is an imaginary center channel. My RF-83's are exceptionally good at imaging.  I am experimenting with speakers and placements based on what I learned from a different thread to capture what goes on in the studio. So far, it's been very educational!

Good imaging makes all the difference.


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Re: Stereo & Mono recordings
« Reply #4 on: 9 Mar 2010, 05:03 pm »
definitely the stereo sound, the sound separation and the effects that achieve certain sounds as they move from one channel to another stimulates my imagination, so my music is not just a set of sounds, but a set of ideas