Raw OB 2x Question

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Raw OB 2x Question
« on: 6 Aug 2009, 02:20 am »
Hi Danny:

A friend owns a pair of the OB 2xs and we were talking about making it a bookshelf type monitor.

The idea would be that one would move the tweeter in between the bass driver and mid woof, having the mid woof on top. This would allow for the bass box height to be as tall as the bass driver and tweet together. It would look like a mini OB5 only the tweet and bass driver in a cab with the mid open on the baffle above.

Question is: would this have any negative effects? I can't see any phase cancellations happening due to this. I think it should work.

Any input appreciated?

Rocket_Ronny

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Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #1 on: 6 Aug 2009, 04:00 am »

A friend owns a pair of the OB 2xs

Wrong, you own them now. :lol:

Danny Richie

Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #2 on: 6 Aug 2009, 04:07 pm »
That could be made to work but will require some crossover changes.

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Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #3 on: 6 Aug 2009, 08:59 pm »

Really, can you explain?

Only thing changing is the configuration of the drivers. The mid woof would still be open baffle, and I would keep the same volume for the bass.

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Danny Richie

Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #4 on: 6 Aug 2009, 09:36 pm »

Sure.

The crossovers that I design are not just optimized for on axis response like many designers will do.

I allow for a couple of other fixed variables. There will be a floor and a fixed distance to the floor. The floor is also more often than not carpeted. There is a semi fixed distance to the ceiling and it almost never has any treatment on it at all.

Listeners never listen below tweeter axis (head on the floor). However, they are often standing in the room or moving around.

A dip in the response due to an out of phase relationship of the drivers (distance offset) seen by moving the ear or mic to the floor has less effect on the overall room response than a dip in the vertical response (above the speaker). A dip in the vertical off axis is more present and more easily seen in the reflections from the ceiling and causes more of a disruption in the over all in room response.

All that being said....

I obviously design to obtain an even in room response. So I try to maintain good phase relationships not only on axis but also above. Doing this will result in out of phase cancellations as you drop below the tweeter level.

So if you keep the same crossover, but flip the speaker over, the on axis response is the same but the room response changes.

Make sense?

HT cOz

Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #5 on: 6 Aug 2009, 10:34 pm »
I must be spending too much time around here, because it did make sense... lol

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Re: Raw OB 2x Question
« Reply #6 on: 6 Aug 2009, 11:22 pm »

Thanks for that and does make sense.

Sounds like minor issues involved. The speakers will go on axis and can be e.q.ed somewhat if need be.

How would you characterize the sound of the OB2x compared to the OB 5s, other than the obvious less distortion of double the drivers of the OB 5?

Thanks again.

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