AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote

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plivac

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AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« on: 10 Dec 2007, 05:25 pm »
I was posting on the AVP16 board, but I think we should have a board with known SOFTWARE issues on the AVP17:

Here are a couple so far:

1. BYPASS works only for 2 channel, not 5/7 channel
2. Selecting DOLBY on remote selects Dolby EX on some occasions and you have to go to root menu to change to DOLBY or PLIIx
3. if you press 7.1 button by accident, you get N/A when you press Dolby button (for some reason BYPASS button works) and you have to go through the whole menu to get desired DOLBY or PLIIx format
4. AUX1 doesn't keep memory of audio input, but reverts top ANALOG every time I use it.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #1 on: 12 Dec 2007, 11:34 pm »
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1. BYPASS works only for 2 channel, not 5/7 channel

That's the way it is suppose to work.  The BYPASS feature is for bypassing AV decoding.

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Selecting DOLBY on remote selects Dolby EX on some occasions and you have to go to root menu to change to DOLBY or PLIIx

I have seen this happened intermittenly. I think the problem is DVD dependent. Dolby EX is an extension of Dolby Pro-Logic. If you have a 5.1 setup, it doesn't matter. You're getting the same decoded information.




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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #2 on: 13 Dec 2007, 02:25 pm »
One more thing - it appears to my ears that there is very little difference between Dolby Processing for Regular Dolby, PLIIx Movie and Music, and the EX mode.

On my old Marantz there was a significant difference between sound modes, but I never used it since they had a "Pure Direct" mode which sounded less processed.

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« Reply #3 on: 15 Dec 2007, 03:15 am »
Dolby IIx expands native two- and 5.1-channel source audio for 6.1- or 7.1-channel playback.
You can find out more from http://www.dolby.com/resources/tech_library/index.cfm
From the 2 channel, it simulates music or movie surround sound differently.
Depending on your setup and source, this format may or may not applies to you.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #4 on: 15 Dec 2007, 03:17 pm »
Jason, thanks for the response.

couple of things

 - I have 5 speakers (no SUB) - will Pro Logic IIx (6.1/7.1) mode decode as Pro Logic II (5.1/5.0) when the BACK is set to “NONE”

- related to this there is 1 more issue on the AVP17 - when selecting speakers LARGE/SMALL/ON/OFF in "FUNCTION SPEAKER" I can change setting for BACK (right after SURR SP) to "NONE", but for "BACK SP" I cannot change setting from "SMALL" even though I want no back speakers

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #5 on: 17 Dec 2007, 01:43 pm »
Another Issue with sound processing - If the 2 channel input "IS NOT" Dolby, the processor will NOT do virtual 5.1 surround, only 2 or 3 channel even though it says DOLBY PLIIx Movie/Music or EX.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #6 on: 8 Jan 2008, 03:55 pm »
Here is one more question - multi channel analog HD Audio processing:

If I have a Blue Ray player that does internal decoding (like the new Denon 3800) of HD Audio formats and send the AVP 17 an analog mutlichannel signal (5.1 - without the subwoofer) will the AVP do any processing or will it bypass so that I can get the HD sound.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #7 on: 9 Jan 2008, 06:24 am »
AVP-17 will not do any processing of the 7.1 inputs. They go through a digital switch to the output. Basically it is acting as a preamp.

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« Reply #8 on: 14 Apr 2008, 07:57 pm »
Anyone have an issue with the AVP17 remote not working when another device is turned on?  My AVP17 remote works fine until I turn on my Samsung TV.  Then the AVP17 remote stops working.  If I turn off the TV, then the AVP17 remote starts working again.  I've e-mailed the NuForce help desk.  But I wanted to see if anyone else has had a similar problem.

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« Reply #9 on: 17 Apr 2008, 03:05 am »
The remote uses IR so the only explanation is that the position of the TV screen causes interference to the remote. This is very unusual indeed.  Try to experiment with a different position for the equipment(s) or point the remote at the AVP-17 from a different angle. This might give you some clue about the nature of the interference.

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« Reply #10 on: 17 Apr 2008, 10:55 pm »
The remote uses IR so the only explanation is that the position of the TV screen causes interference to the remote. This is very unusual indeed.  Try to experiment with a different position for the equipment(s) or point the remote at the AVP-17 from a different angle. This might give you some clue about the nature of the interference.


Thanks Jason.  I tried a number of different positions including moving the AVP17 further from the TV but with no success.  I did try using the AVP17 and remote in front of a Panasonic plasma TV.  And the AVP17 responded fine to the remote.  So the issue seems isolated to the Samsung TV.

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« Reply #11 on: 18 Apr 2008, 05:54 am »
Unless the Samsung TV is sending out IR signals that get bounced around to confuse the AVP-17, I can't figure out how it can affect the AVP-17.  With the TV on, place the AVP-17 remote very close to the IR receiver (behind the glass on front panel), try to use your hand to block out other interference and see it that works.

If this experiment works, you can try to tape a paper cylinder around the IR receiver and then point the remote straight at it. It is a hack that I thought might work. I have never tried this since this is the first time I heard about IR interference.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #12 on: 28 Apr 2008, 09:16 pm »
Excuse me, I might be in the wrong place. How Do you setup a 4.0 Speaker system? I have 4 identical Large monitors (JBL 4430s) and don't use subwoofers and no center speakers.

 How best to setup the initial speaker setup and configuring Dolby IIx for a 4.0.

My initial tries seems like I can't Set my Main L+R , and L+R surrounds to Large. Am I mistaken or out of luck?

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #13 on: 2 May 2008, 06:00 am »
For high-performance audio, always set speakers to 'Large', regardless the actual size, high-end speakers are OK with 'Large' setting.

For 4.0, turn off Subwoofer and Center.   

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #14 on: 3 May 2008, 12:47 am »
Thanks casey, but I'm not sure I can set all 4 speakers to large -- or, at least I haven't been able to figure out how to do it. There is a line in the manual that says when the L/R main is set to large the surrounds can only be small which would be dissappointing if there is no way around that.

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Re: AVP17 - Know Issues w/ software & remote
« Reply #15 on: 11 Jun 2008, 05:11 pm »
Is it possible to get the AVP17 to automatically recognize input source for AUX1 - it keeps going back to Analog despite input setup in Menu for Optical.

Also, If I have tow DVDs contacted to the AVP17 one via Optical and other via Coax can the AVP 17 automatically decide which input is used or do I have to do this manually every time?

Most receivers have the option to preconfigure inputs for various audio signals.