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dirtold

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« on: 16 Oct 2003, 01:39 am »
I am interested in the VMPS 626R but I am concerned about it producing enough volume in my room. It is about 4000 CF. Should I consider a different model?

warnerwh

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« Reply #1 on: 16 Oct 2003, 01:54 am »
This depends on how loud you like your music.  The RM 2 would be the minimum I could deal in your size of room  as I like to have peaks hit 100db at times.  The bass would also be much better along with the mids having two panels instead of one.

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« Reply #2 on: 16 Oct 2003, 01:55 am »
Hello,

We need more information to answer that question; it's hard to establish what's "enough" for a listener without knowing preferences and other factors, such as they type of music you listen to, the amount of bass you expect, and your associated equipment you'll be pairing with the speakers.

If your room is between  ~20x20x10 and ~15x15x15, the 626R.  The 626R with the FST tweeter can handle a bit more power at absolute extremes, given the lower crossover of the midrange and improved tweeter response.

The 626R will have no problems filling that room with sound within their measured frequency response range (~50-20,000+Hz), so long as they're supplied with clean, high current amplification.

Kind Regards,

Rup

dirtold

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« Reply #3 on: 16 Oct 2003, 01:40 pm »
My room is actually 15' x 30' with a ceiling sloping from 10' to 8' in the long dimension or 9' average. My listening interests are mainly movies although it may change with quality speakers. I have an Audio Research stereo tube amp rated at 80w/ch that I was considering using as a feed to the speakers.

My music interests are jazz and classical and I know classical orchestra could be challenging at high levels. Jazz would be ideal, especially small combos.

I currently use a Cambridge Ensemble that is about 15 years old and they do a good job volume wise even though I have the base cabinets behind my RPTV.

Hope this helps.

John Casler

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« Reply #4 on: 16 Oct 2003, 02:29 pm »
Hi Mike,

I have a 20 x 30 x 9 room that opens into a larger entry and hallway, so my cubic feet are as large if not larger.

I have a pair of 626Rs and they alone do a great job of filling the space.  

You will also find that "in the sweet spot" they will sound louder.  I have measured them with 95-98 db readings regularly and assume they may play louder, but havent measured it.

If you are talking HT, with 5 of them with a Sub or two, it could be equally satisfying.

There are several factors that will also affect the "perception" of loudness.

If your room is live or dead acoustically there will be a difference with the live room sounding louder.

If you have a good amp of 150-300 wpc the speaker will sound (and play) louder.

If you use a stand with a solid front (bearded) the speakers will sound slightly louder

If you listen nearfield, the speakers will sound louder.

All that said, the new RM1/10 (RM1 with 10 woofers) will play louder also in that same price range. ($1780 a pr w/10 "MEGAWOOFER")

Hope that helps,

Rob Babcock

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« Reply #5 on: 17 Oct 2003, 01:42 am »
Hmmm...do you have any pics of the new RM1/10?

John Casler

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« Reply #6 on: 17 Oct 2003, 02:00 am »
Quote from: Rob Babcock
Hmmm...do you have any pics of the new RM1/10?


OOoops, I didn't mean 10 woofers, I meant 10" woofers. :oops:

One 10" active and a 10" PR.  Should be rather potent 8)

I haven't seen it yet and I'm not sure if Big B has a digital camera.

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« Reply #7 on: 17 Oct 2003, 02:40 am »
:lol:  I guess I read that as "10 inch", not 10 woofers! :o   Although that would move some serious air!

Hopefully Big B will post some pics eventually.

John Casler

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« Reply #8 on: 17 Oct 2003, 02:54 am »
Yeah, I could get behind a column of 5  - 10"ers, say in an RM40 cabinet with a side mounted 15 PR and a slot loaded 10" and two rear firing 10" PRs.

Just set them outside the RM40s and "fire when ready Gridley" :mrgreen:

Telarc 1812 Overture....No problem

Might give the Wilson XS some Stiff Competition :wink:

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« Reply #9 on: 17 Oct 2003, 05:48 am »
I say splurge and get the RM40's, it's a decision that will never be regretted.

jgubman

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« Reply #10 on: 17 Oct 2003, 06:18 pm »
I'm w/ Tyson.

I own a LRC, which is pretty much a 626, and have auditioned the RM-40, RM-2 and RM-1 (rm-1 audition was over a year ago and not the version w/ the 10" megawoofer).

Suffice it to say, to my ears the RM-40 is head and shoulders above the rest of the pack. It's really a stunning speaker.

dirtold

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« Reply #11 on: 17 Oct 2003, 11:32 pm »
I am the guy who started this thread!!!

Not that anybody really cares, but my reason for asking about the 626R was because while I recognize that the RM40 would solve my problems, its size is a little overwhelming. If it were not for this I wouldn't have not asked the question to begin with; I would have just placed an order for an RM40 to begin with (after WAF).

John Casler pretty much answered my question, but the only way to be sure is to try them. I noticed the GR Research folks are floating one or two of their speakers around the country so people could do such a thing. I believe all you have to do is pay shipping from where the speakers currently are to your location; hint, hint, hint.

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« Reply #12 on: 18 Oct 2003, 12:00 am »
The Dilucio's are good, but the 626R's are better.

The limit of the 626Rs in a big room won't be the bass, it will be the mid-range panel.  To get louder than the 626R's, you gotta go w/extra mid panels which means the RM-2 at a minimum.  The 626R's will play very loud without distortion, the RM2's should play even louder, and the RM40's will drive you out of the room before distorting.  

But even at HT reference levels the 626R's are fine, even it a big room.

John Casler

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« Reply #13 on: 18 Oct 2003, 12:04 am »
Tyson pretty well nails it as always. (ever think of being a dealer?  :D )

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« Reply #14 on: 18 Oct 2003, 07:49 pm »
Quote from: John Casler
Yeah, I could get behind a column of 5  - 10"ers, say in an RM40 cabinet ...

I'll take 2!  :wink: