Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?

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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #20 on: 15 Apr 2008, 01:25 am »
Josh, can you be more specific on the V12?  What didn't you like about it?  I'm seeing nothing but positives re that amp.  thanks -

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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #21 on: 15 Apr 2008, 01:05 pm »
Its not a bad amp, its just not that great of an amp either from what I can tell.  I've read some things about how they design...i.e. for a particular sound.  I haven't seen the design.  I can tell you that when I owned the amp I enjoyed it, it was my first audiophile amp ever.  But, on restrospect I realize that there were many things wrong with my system then. 

In terms of power, it didn't behave like its specs.  I've heard 30 watt amps sound more powerful than the V12i (I had the i version).  In triode it was a bit loosey goosey, which really shouldn't be, since triode mode has lower output impedance assuming the gNFB loop isn't altered in this mode. It was also a bit overly euphonic.  I am under the impression that Cary doesn't exactly use top shelf iron, but this could be a unique case.  I've heard other things to, but I don't want to speak without knowing for sure.

Based on my living with it for some time and subsequent experiences, I would try a more neutral amp.  That is my $.02. 

In that system, it didn't image at all.  Replacing it with the Spectron Musician, at that time, tightened up bass, which is to be expected, but it was the imaging improvement that was such a stark contrast. 

If you can borrow/demo a V12 first and compare it with some other tube amps and you find it to be tops, then so be it.   


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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #22 on: 15 Apr 2008, 01:14 pm »
Interesting - Thanks Josh!


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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #23 on: 16 Apr 2008, 02:46 am »
I've heard great reviews about these monoblocks powering magnepans.
Tough load by any measure.
Not in stock now but they were 1200$ last summer, fwiw.

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/bizzyb/TAD1000.html

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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #24 on: 16 Apr 2008, 03:26 am »
I would definitely consider a used Rogue Audio amplifier, or a pair of Quicksilver monoblocks.  Both are quite well-designed.  JoshK is probably right, the Cary amps will be a bit more "colorful" and I don't mean that in a positive way. 

Don't worry about getting exactly 100W.  50W-75 is pretty close, and much depends on how they determine the rating (some are rated at .5% distortion, others 1% distortion, others 5% distortion... all very different ;) )

There's an awesome Harman Kardon Citation II on audiogon for $1500 right now that is completely rebuilt, and even has the cage.  That would probably be my first choice.  There's also an awesome pair of Quicksilver Mono 100s listed -- also nice amps, and better looking than a Cit. II.
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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #25 on: 16 Apr 2008, 06:33 pm »
Okay boys - Strange thing happened today.  I ended up spending $500 more than I wanted to.  Surprise, surprise.  :roll:

Also got less power than I originally wanted -  Got the BAT VK-60.  I have very high expectations.  Of course, it's only a matter of time until I get the upgrade bug again . . .  Guess then I can buy another VK-60 and mono them out and run a full 120 WPC.

So, 'barrin' accidents', as they say, I should be good to go for the Vinyl Tour sometime in May.  Keep me posted and thanks to everyone for the info!

Kirch

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Re: Such thing as a "good" $1500 100WPC Tube Amplifier?
« Reply #26 on: 17 Apr 2008, 01:59 am »
congratulations Kirch.  The Bat VK-60 with the 6C33C tubes looks like an exceptionally interesting piece to me   :hyper:  -so when is the party?

I think we would all love to insert your new amp in our system. 

                                                         -Merrev