several people have let me know that my price on the denon was too high. i apologize especially in an ad bragging about how cheap it was!!! i have never sold A/V gear before, only 2 channel. there was not another denon on audiogon to compare it too, so i priced it at my usual 50% off retail which i have always thought is a fair starting point. well, i guess it isn't for av receivers as it seems more like 70% off is the going rate (WOW!!!) so i have withdrawn the agon ad and will rethink my pricing. sorry to all that may have thought i was a greedy bastard.