[satfrat]

Hi Promitheus,,, looking over your website, this Prower Energizer stuck out as something I'd like to learn more about. The fact that this ?transformer? simply plugs into an outlet and that's it has me asking wtf does this thing actually do?  I'm installing hammond chokes that simply plug into the wall as this does but I guess choke do just the opposite of the Power Energizer. The Choke taketh and the Energizer giveth. So someone please explain how simply plugging this unit into a wall socket will give your amplifier's additional power? I have a balanced power supply in my system that has everything in my system plugged into it. How would this unit work in this situation? Has anyone tried this thing, are there any reviews out, and lastly what would one hear for a difference with this added or is it one of those tweeks that's based on faith cuz you'll never really notice anything different? 

I hope I'm not coming across as being critical as I really don't have any understanding of this product to be critical about. I would really like to be enlighted as to it's worth in an audio and/or video system and would simply like to know what can this Power Energizer do for my system to the point where I'd want to spend $540 /shipping included. I like my music moderately loud but I play all my 6 speakers small and have a subwoofer. Thanks.  


Cheers,
Robin

[denjo]

Hey Robin

Don't you think you have enough power? First we have the Power Enhancer and then we have the Power Energizer? Power Enabler? Power Enrichment?  Just kidding!

Good question! I like to know what it does too!

Best Regards
Dennis

[satfrat]

Just curious as hell, that's all. Just like i'm curious about those Hammond Chokes so I got a 10 pound 193M choke coming in 2 days. But then again there's been a lot of press concerning them. There's zippo on this Energizer doowikie soooo I gotta ask questions. Maybe I'll get some answers that make some sense. Maybe, just maybe I can be a beta tester for some free press here at Audiocirlce. Yuck yuck. 

Thing is there's quite a few folks here that really like Promitheus products so I feel there's reason to ask questions. Hey someone's gotta do it. 

Cheers,
Robin

[Early B.]

Send a PM to GHM. He demoed the Energizer a year ago.

[satfrat]

Aleady did,,,,, and actually found most all the answers to my questions in the very first thread of this forum and I only had to read a little over 100 posts to find it. I'm still curious what the possible differences there are between this Energizer and a Hammond Choke? Regardless I'm pretty satisfied that it's not something I'd consider adding to my already power conditioning stronghold.    aa

Cheers,
Robin

[PromitheusAudio]

Robin
Thanks for asking about our products

What it does is it present a shunt for high frequency noise to be shunted to ground due to the inductive loading
It also presents a 1K load for normal 50Hz operation and this helps again to lower any noise stating at 50hz.
However because of the 1K load it draws 120mA and 240ma for 240v versions.

The primary wires has to be made big and the core has to bigger than the hammond to avoid saturating the core.

Also another thing about our unit is that it alters the power factor. The current waveform is brought forward allowing more current to be deliver to the amp as the voltage is lagging. Some electrical engineers might view this as a bad thing as you are not getting a power factor of 1 where the current waveform and voltage waveform is in phase. But in terms of sonics this is the main reason why we called it power energizer. Because the current is leading the voltage amp allowing a more energictic sound, the sound opens up, wider soundstage and better layering not to mention all the benefits of lower noise

Also another strong point is the cores are made with the 0.35mm audio grade core. I am not sure why but it sounds better than the 0.5mm steel used in the normal power transformer and the hammond choke.

Because of the energy being stored in the choke, layering of the windings is really important. We layer each layer of wire with a layer of paper. This damps the wires from microvibration. Technically wise i am not sure why it helps but sonically the difference is quieter background than without paper damping


hope this helps

[daz_bike]

I have 2 x Energizers and 1 BPS and find them very effective in my system.

I use 1 Energizer for my Nuforce mono amps and they sound a lot more dynamic and less harsh.

On the front end I have been using the BPS and have not got around to adding a Energizer as well due to lack of quality power cord.  I will be getting a good power cord soon which will match the rest of my power cords.   Apparently an Energizer on the front end either alone or with the BPS is a further positive.

Nicholas, can you tell me, on the front end, is it better to have the BPS --> Energizer  or  Energizer --> BPS.

Thanks

[NewBuyer]

...because of the 1K load it draws 120mA and 240ma for 240v versions...

Can somebody tell me please: As the Power Energizer is always plugged in, is it constantly drawing 120mA, and will this noticeably increase our electric bill in the home?