VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!

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VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« on: 7 Oct 2007, 01:24 pm »
I just had a friend do a few upgrades to my VTL ST 85 tube amp.
The sound of the amp always pleased me, great tone, dynamic with tons of bass.
Unfortunately everytime I borrowed a solid state amp I was impressed with how quiet and detailed it was, so the search went on to improve the VTL.

First I replaced the signal caps with Multicaps RTX and Cardas caps. This took a long time for the caps to settle in. Did it help? Well for me the beginning was tough but they ironed themselves out and started to sound very nice, but the noise floor was still there. Now this amp stock is very quiet but I was going for something more. All tubes were replaced. NOS Mullard 12at7's for the driver and signal tubes. Siemens and Winged C's for the power tubes. Great tubes sound great, buy NOS whenever you can!

But I wanted more..

My friend went to work on the power supply.. WOW!!!
He replaced the diodes with Fairchild stealth Freds, resistors with Caddock 231's
and replaced a few caps with blackgates and bypassed the big electrolytic with Auricaps. WOW!!

Much quieter, much more detail, much more texture.
It now has the ability to resolve complex passages and multiple voices with such ease, it sounds SO refined, fast and Delicious. I've had a few goosebump moments.
Bass is less boomy, hell there is no boom at all , just fast textured, resolved bass, so fast that it makes my little 5 inch woofers now seem inadequate.  I need a sub! A fast one :thumb: to keep up with the system. I may be excited by all the newness of it all, just like we get when a new piece of equipment arrives, but I am very glad I did this. No mods, just better, newer parts made a very big difference. It definitely took this amp to the next level. If I want more I will have to look elsewhere.

Pics to follow

mike

steve k

Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #1 on: 7 Oct 2007, 02:35 pm »
That's intriguing. I've had VTL's vor 5 years or so now and now have two pairs of monoblocks I'm using in a biamp setup. I've never wanted to "fiddle" with the VTL sound but now you've got me thinkin.  :o Others have suggested bypassing the big electrolytics. I know VTL uses MIT (multicaps) in their own upgrades. Hmmmm... Thanks for the nudge....
steve

Double Ugly

Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #2 on: 7 Oct 2007, 02:38 pm »
Congrats on the upgrades, Mike!  Having following a similar path a time or two myself, I know how significant the improvements can be.

With that said...

He replaced the diodes with Fairchild stealth Freds, resistors with Caddock 231's
and replaced a few caps with blackgates and bypassed the big electrolytic with Auricaps. WOW!!

If I may, you may want to consider replacing the Auricaps with Sonicap Platinums.

That's not to say Auricaps are bad; they aren't (or at least they aren't terrible :wink: ).  Even so, the Platinums are among the best caps available IMHO.  I think you'll (again) be surprised by the difference, particularly in the openness you'll hear.


I need a sub! A fast one :thumb: to keep up with the system.

Nah... you just need a pair of Timepieces.  :wink:  :lol:

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Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #3 on: 7 Oct 2007, 02:42 pm »
Steve, do it, you will love it!

If you the info that was done let me know, man its all in the power supply 8)

And DU, yeah maybe the platinums down the road. If this amp can drive the timepieces then I will be in sonic nirvana, mein gott!

I have spent the morning laughing, swearing and just plain high as a kite. the hairs on my arms are on the rise, its friggin beautiful. I am in love and need help...

Double Ugly

Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #4 on: 7 Oct 2007, 02:46 pm »
And DU, yeah maybe the platinums down the road. If this amp can drive the timepieces then I will be in sonic nirvana, mein gott!

I have spent the morning laughing, swearing and just plain high as a kite. the hairs on my arms are on the rise, its friggin beautiful. I am in love and need help...

With the changes and improvements Bob has made in the past year, I think you may be surprised by how well it performs with the Timepieces.

See you in a few days!  :thumb:

mcrespo71

Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #5 on: 7 Oct 2007, 06:13 pm »
Steve, do it, you will love it!

If you the info that was done let me know, man its all in the power supply 8)

And DU, yeah maybe the platinums down the road. If this amp can drive the timepieces then I will be in sonic nirvana, mein gott!

I have spent the morning laughing, swearing and just plain high as a kite. the hairs on my arms are on the rise, its friggin beautiful. I am in love and need help...

Mike- good for you.  It's awesome when that happens! :thumb:

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Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #6 on: 7 Oct 2007, 07:41 pm »
Thanks Mike :thumb:
Life is good again :P

Mods can go either way, this one went perfect.

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Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #7 on: 7 Oct 2007, 08:09 pm »
Photo of the changes that were completed

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Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #8 on: 8 Oct 2007, 04:15 am »
Nice Mr. T.... I look forward to hearing the "new" VTL..... 8)

mjosef

Re: VTL Upgrade Path WOW!!!!
« Reply #9 on: 9 Oct 2007, 03:03 am »
Yeah...time to have another rave Mike.  :lol: