Cornet2 tube selection

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CButterworth

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Cornet2 tube selection
« on: 22 Aug 2007, 05:35 pm »
Right now, I have the standard complement of tubes in my Cornet2:

12AU7 - Sylvania
12AX7 - Mullards branded as Amperex and GE (1960's) unmatched

Anyway, when I did tube rolling with the 12AX7's I preferred the "Mullards."

I am thinking of investing a little in more tubes!

I could purchase a single Mullard / Brimar / Telefunken 12AU7, or a pair of cheaper 12AX7's

My Question:

Which tube, the single 12AU7 or the pair of 12AX7's have the largest effect on sound?

What other tube types have people tried and liked?  I may use other tube types, although I do not want to change the gain, or have to swap out any resistors.

Regards,
Charlie

WGH

Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #1 on: 22 Aug 2007, 08:08 pm »
Charlie - Don't forget about the rectifier. I found it can effect the sound as much or more than the 12AU7. Your options then can include trying out a 5AR4/GZ34 (a Mullard?),  indirectly heated NOS 5Y3 variations, and the 5V4GA. I try to keep the heater voltage close to 6.3 volts for optimal sound.

BobM

Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #2 on: 22 Aug 2007, 08:41 pm »
I agree, the rectifier plays a large role. NOS 5Y3 variations generally result in a lower heater voltage. Newer versions are a bit better. The 5V4GA spiked it up a bit more, resulting in better bass response for me.

Enjoy,
Bob

CButterworth

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Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #3 on: 22 Aug 2007, 08:58 pm »
I am awaiting a NOS RCA 5V4GA (two actually) to arrive in the mail.  How does the rectifier effect the heater voltages?  Aren't the heaters driven from the filament secondaries of the transformer?

Charlie

CButterworth

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Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #4 on: 22 Aug 2007, 09:36 pm »
OK, does R223 act to drop voltage for the heaters? From the schematic, it looks as if the diode bridge should putput something like 8.9VDC  (6.3 x sqrt2).  This is regulated using Q100 and Q101, with voltage being dropped using R223?

I just measured my heaters - 7.36V before R223 and 5.75V after R223.  Now, I have read that a little heater undervoltage extends the lifespan of the tube without much sonic detriment.

Now if I wanted to bring the heater voltage up to 6V.  Then is this correct:

1. I read 7.36V and want 6V, so I need to drop 1.36V.
2. The tube heaters run at 0.3A, which for three tubes = 0.9A total.
3. Voltage drop / heater current = amount of resistance required.
4. 1.36 / 0.9 = 1.51 R 5W resistor.  I expect that 1.5R will be fine as it should give 6.01V.

Is my math correct?


Charlie

WGH

Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #5 on: 23 Aug 2007, 01:05 am »
Dunno about your math, but there are formulas at the end of this thread
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=41430.0

I think you should go for the 6.3 V, tube life be dammed!

CButterworth

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Re: Cornet2 tube selection
« Reply #6 on: 23 Aug 2007, 02:33 am »
WGH,

My math seems correct.  I can parallel a 10R to the 1.8R to get 1.41R which brings the voltage on the heaters up to around 6.1V.  I can accept this, especially if my mains voltage fluctuates, which it seems to do.

As for tube life, I am thinking that I want to use the Cornet2 for a long, long time and really like the sound of the old British -made tubes (maybe the Brit in me talking).  Anyhow given their scarcity and cost, if I splash out on good ones, then I don't want to have to replace them ever (maybe that's the Scottish in me!).

Charlie