There may be hope!?!

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Gordy

There may be hope!?!
« on: 26 Jan 2008, 11:00 pm »
Here's an interesting new organization... http://www.turnmeup.org/index.shtml

orthobiz

Re: There may be hope!?!
« Reply #1 on: 26 Jan 2008, 11:42 pm »
I've done some limited work on recording records on my Mac with Peak Pro and an M-Audio Audiophile. I'm amazed at how little "real estate" the records from the 70's occupy. I've checked out some recent CD's and it's just like the pictures: all signal, no headroom, no dynamic range. Some of the stuff is unlistenable, as we all know. I saw Hard-Fi a couple years back and was disappointed at how LOUD the CD was when I got home!!!!

This whole topic makes me want to break out Thick As A Brick. Back in college (about 100 years ago), I borrowed a dBX unit from Stereo Sound in Stony Brook, LI for a trial. The dynamic swings in that record were incredible, the dBX really shone in an A-B test. Alas, fund availability (like NO money) prevented me from buying it. Also, the range was much less on a lot of other rock recordings (like Rundgren's Faithful).

I know, I know, you classical guys knew this all along. Can't imagine they can pump up classical stuff like rock.

Seems like a simple trade off: all distortion/volume so that our tuning dial stops on the LOUDEST song on the car radio? How stupid can the listening public be????

There may be hope. Gotta be. I'm raising kids (13, 15, 18) who have listened to hi-fi and appreciate the difference in a world of 128 compressed iTunes.

Time to steam clean my vinyl Tull (with the full newspaper, even!)

Paul

Folsom

Re: There may be hope!?!
« Reply #2 on: 27 Jan 2008, 12:57 am »
You might be surprised at a few things coming/out that sound fairly good.

The problem is they are all indie stuff so you have to go out looking for them. Granted a lot of it is limited, but there are some people getting into doing records first and then making MP3's availability for download and things like that.

orthobiz

Re: There may be hope!?!
« Reply #3 on: 28 Jan 2008, 02:28 am »
Will new LP's be better than new CD's in this regard because of the inherent limitations of cramming too much wiggle in the vinyl grooves with loud passages? That is, are newly minted LP's immune to this phenomenon? Or better than the CD version?

Paul

rabpaul

Re: There may be hope!?!
« Reply #4 on: 28 Jan 2008, 02:52 am »
Will new LP's be better than new CD's in this regard because of the inherent limitations of cramming too much wiggle in the vinyl grooves with loud passages? That is, are newly minted LP's immune to this phenomenon? Or better than the CD version?
Paul
Currently all music is recorded and mixed digitally and then output to CD while those destined to become LPs go though a DAC. I am told there are exceptions where music is recorded on analog tape but mixing AFAIK is still digital. I doubt anyone who has pumped up the volume so to speak is going to make any exceptions i.e they are not going to remix just for LPs so what you get on CDs is typically what you will get on LPs. Would such LPs sound better I would think so but only because of the LP medium not because of anything else.