What does more power do for you? ? System issues. . .

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What does more power do for you? ? System issues. . .
« Reply #20 on: 23 Jul 2003, 06:09 am »
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As DVV said:

I'm a firm believer in the amp having sufficient muscle to really have a tight grip on the speakers (to provide a very linear response).  

On the other hand, I'm also a SET fan.  Doesn't leave many options does it?


Well, yes and no.

You can't realistically expect a SET amp to deliver prodigious power levels, especially if you run those tubes in true, pure class A. This forces you into the extra efficient loudspeaker territory for any appreciable dynamics above rather quiet.

On the other hand, you can go for SEPP (single ended push-pull) solid state gear. The idea in brief is to use only one pair of NPN/PNP transistors, however with as tight a match as you can. In general, this does provide for increased clarity and does remind one (more or less depending on the design) of a SET setup. If the output devices chosen were beefy enough, you CAN have reasonable power with reasonable clarity.

For example, my old (1993) Harman/Kardon 6550 is just such an amp, delivering 50W/8 ohms from a pair of Toshiba 2SC3281/2SA1302 devices. Gamut uses 250W MOSFET devices for 150W/8 ohms using a single pair only, albeit on mighty heat sinks.

For a more economy orientated approach, look over Hugh's AKSA amp, the smaller model uses exactly the same approach, or Dan Banquer's RS Designs, with again the same approach, but with the added benefit of full voltage regulation. Or Naim products, they do it the same way.

So, you DO have some choice. I recommend audition before buying, of course, and I note there are quite a few folks here who own AKSA amps in one version or another, so you have experience to fall back on.

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« Reply #21 on: 23 Jul 2003, 06:17 am »
Thanks for such a detailed explanation DVV, even a simpleton like me understood it. :o Best regards, Robin

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« Reply #22 on: 23 Jul 2003, 02:59 pm »
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Thanks for such a detailed explanation DVV, even a simpleton like me understood it. :o Best regards, Robin


Come on, Robin, you're no simpleton. In my view, it's no fault of your own. For years, I have been complaining that a novice has no place to see and learn the basics as they are, everybody seems to assume you were born with the knowledge, and if not, tough luck.

And it's all so simple really, just hurts more that audio culture is so poorly cared for, so poorly spread. Learn the basics, which are hard science and experience, and then it's much easier to develop your auditioning skills, to have realistic expectations, and of course, to stop being a sheep for fleecing. The side of audio I actually hate.

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« Reply #23 on: 24 Jul 2003, 06:58 pm »
I agree with John - I don't think it's unreasonable for a live orchestral event to reach peaks approaching 125dB - there's a +30dB of headroom required for dynamic classical.   I'll go hunting for sources....

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