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nespa pro
« on: 5 Dec 2006, 12:56 am »
let us hear some comments on the nespa pro

tvad4

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« Reply #1 on: 5 Dec 2006, 01:00 am »
let us hear some comments on the nespa pro

I heard a change in the sound after treating a few discs.

I see used Nespa units occasionally for sale.


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« Reply #2 on: 9 Dec 2006, 09:28 am »
TVAD, a good change?

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« Reply #3 on: 9 Dec 2006, 10:00 am »
What is nespa pro?!

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« Reply #4 on: 9 Dec 2006, 02:14 pm »
What is nespa pro?!


I met Larry and his wife Jane two years ago at RMAF.
This year Larry told me about the Nespa and that though he was very skeptical at first, after hearing the difference it made in his CD's he purchased one and became a dealer.

Jane center, Larry's on the right - I picked up the photo from the NY Rave gallery

I was hopping to arrange to get one from Larry for a North Texas Jam but latter in the day lonewolf and I ran into a gentleman at the show that had one.  He also had a wash for CD's that he said made significant improvement in the sound.

lonewolf and I had each picked up an Usher CD so we gave him one to wash and one to wash & Nespa. Our disc was treated with 60 cycles.  So, I now have a stock CD, one that's washed and one that's washed and Nespa'd.  We met Stan and Carter Tracht and Paul Chen in the Usher room the next morning before the exhibits opened and tested our CD's.  We all heard a difference.

The Nespa can be set to 30, 60 or 90 cycles of light.  Larry typically starts with 60 cycles then listens.  Some discs require more than 60 cycles and once you're familiar with what it does you can tell if it needs additional cycles.  Understand that the treatment process is final and cannot be reversed.

Here's a link to an article in 6 moons:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nanotech2/pro.html

Perhaps Larry will jump in and provide additional details.

Jeff
« Last Edit: 9 Dec 2006, 02:48 pm by Captain Humble »

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Re: nespa pro
« Reply #5 on: 9 Dec 2006, 03:18 pm »
Heard a difference?  How come you both qualified your comments down to saying you "heard a difference"?   This forum has no shortage of strong opinions, good feedback and descriptive poetic wordsmithing, maybe all three at once.  It seems, though, when it comes to the Nespa, that there's some kind of NDA going on.  I mean, I can take my cds, five them to my wife to play in her van, get them back months later all scratched and worn, and then play them in my hi-end rig.  I can honestly say I "heard a difference" but I ain't paying her $850 to do that.....oh, and the difference?  It's not a good difference, it's a bad one.   

Seriously, many reading this thread have likely read all the Nespa info and reviews from 6moons, the Asylum, Hoffman, A-gon, etc.  However, it has a different authority when our own Circle brethren comment on a piece of gear.  C'mon, tell us what you really think.

BTW, the Nespa pro is the latest version, more expensive ($825) and much more powerful (3x supposedly) xenon bulb.  it has the three settings, as well.

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« Reply #6 on: 10 Dec 2006, 05:27 am »
Captain Humble....
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lonewolf and I had each picked up an Usher CD so we gave him one to wash and one to wash & Nespa. Our disc was treated with 60 cycles.  So, I now have a stock CD, one that's washed and one that's washed and Nespa'd.  We met Stan and Carter Tracht and Paul Chen in the Usher room the next morning before the exhibits opened and tested our CD's.  We all heard a difference.
Jeff is correct...they were different. Paul Chen played both the stock cd and the Nespa cd....not telling us which was which. One listen, two listens.....you could hear a clarity in the sound....one was better sounding - clearer...all four of us agreed on the cd....it was the Nespa cd.
Also....at a Rave at Phil's, we tried the Nespa....again the same results.... 8)
It is something to check out..... :thumb:

                                     Chris

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« Reply #7 on: 10 Dec 2006, 05:33 am »
I really enjoy both, the nespa pro, and the fluid.  I find my soundstage gets taller/wider/deeper, with better seperation of instramentation, and holographic vocals.  This is in over 9/10 I have tried.  Funny thing is I am to lazy to get what is suppose to be best.  That is, making a duplicate copy, suppose to be better than original.  I cannot comment on this, but I definately give thumbs up to the pro/fluid combo.  I also love the Nano tek wire.........so there. :drool:

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« Reply #8 on: 10 Dec 2006, 05:37 am »
The Nespa discs I compared appeared to have less room ambiance and air. The space between instruments and voices was quieter and more distinct, but this led to a somewhat artificial sound that lacked cohesion, IMO. As I wrote earlier, the Nespa'd discs sounded different. Neither worse nor better, but I preferred the sound of my originals.

Interestingly, the person who lent me their Nespa over a year ago claimed to have liked the sound of the processed discs, but this person recently sold the Nespa and mentioned having used it only about 20 times.

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« Reply #9 on: 13 Dec 2006, 12:02 am »
Jeff, all:

         Like all audio tools, the Nespa Pro requires some learning. When I first started using it, I'd just give all discs the 60 pulse treatment. After I became more familiar with the effect and relistened to the first ones I did, I realized that they still had some of the digital nasties which some later treated discs did not. It then became clear that didfferent discs required differing amounts of treatment depending on manufacturer or burned vs. pressed. Thus, I started giving them another 30 pulses until I felt there was nothing more to be gained. The max I've used is 150 pulses.
        Coincidentally, as the nasties totally disappear soundstage increases, bass gets tighter and micro detail improves. I've gotten to the point where I can't listen to a CD without Nespa treatment.
        I've also found that the greater the capability of the playback system the easier it is to hear the very definite improvement. I've demoed the Nespa in >$100 G systems and astounded folks. I've also heard very little difference in so-so systems.
        The magic elixir Jeff mentioned is Liquid Resolution, sold on Agon. The improvement is greater than any CD surface treatments I've heard and I've wasted lotsa bucks on snake oil.
        I recently bought a Leader LJM1851 Jitter Meter. I'm trying to determine what the mysterious black box changes. More later.

Regards,
Larry Welsh