stacking force subs?

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jimmy b

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stacking force subs?
« on: 5 Jul 2006, 11:50 pm »
 I have just purchased my second Force. It has been sugessted to stack them for better output
 How do you suggest stacking them? seams like that would mar the finnish and be prone to vibration knocking the top sub off onto the floor. what way can the 2 be fixed together to accomplish this?

Thanks

Eric

Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #1 on: 6 Jul 2006, 03:45 pm »
I have never heard of stacking them. The only way I could think of doing it safely would be to put them on a stand of some sort. But I really don't see what the advantage would be

Mike Dzurko

Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #2 on: 6 Jul 2006, 07:50 pm »
I have just purchased my second Force. It has been sugessted to stack them for better output
 How do you suggest stacking them? seams like that would mar the finnish and be prone to vibration knocking the top sub off onto the floor. what way can the 2 be fixed together to accomplish this?

Thanks

Jimmy:

I once stacked four . . .  the little rubber pads you can pick up at any hardware store work great. Put the sticky side on the bottom of the Force legs. They won't move . . . :thumb:

jimmy b

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Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #3 on: 7 Jul 2006, 02:49 am »
Mike what are the pros & cons of this configuration?

Thanks,

Mike Dzurko

Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #4 on: 7 Jul 2006, 02:32 pm »
Mike what are the pros & cons of this configuration?

Thanks,

Jimmy:

When you put two identical subs right next to each other, either side by side, or stacking, they essentially become one sub with 6db greater output than a single sub. This is called co-locating the subs. In doing this, you now essentially have a mono sub, even if you're using stereo inputs. Depending on your room modes, etc. there will be very slight differences between stacking and placing side by side. Just by listening, you will be hard pressed to tell which is "better"  . . .  measurements will show a slight difference. Stacking has the practical advantage of taking up less floor space.

The co-located subs have the advantages of having the loudest clean output and being the easiest to calibrate and get sounding good. However, some folks prefer using stereo subs that are not co-located. Here, you may be able to get slightly smoother overall room response because you are loading the room from two different places. You will also maintain stereo bass all the way down the frequency spectrum. The disadvantages are that it is more difficult to "dial in" and you won't get the full 6db increase in ouput . . .  more like 3-4db depending on room and placement.  We should write a book about this one  :D



jimmy b

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Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #5 on: 8 Jul 2006, 04:06 pm »
Thanks Mike, just got the second force last night. i'll keep the forum updated as to the results

jimmy b

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Re: stacking force subs?
« Reply #6 on: 10 Jul 2006, 02:04 am »
Well the 2 force subs are stacked  per Mikes suggestion and they havent moved with a whole day of playing..

Output is definitlty greater as I have had to dial down the subwoofer levels in my reciver to get a nice smooth sound.

So, same foot print twice the bass, good deal.

now all I need is to find a nice pair of essence on audiogone to complete my system