DK Design LSA Model 2 Speakers

earlmarc · « **on:** 25 Jun 2006, 04:01 pm »

Read some good things about these $2500 floor standers. Anybody tried them?

http://www.dkdesigngroup.com/#

Carlman · « **Reply #1 on:** 25 Jun 2006, 05:02 pm »

Quote from: from DK site

Ladies and gentlemen brace yourselves. Audio manufacturers run for cover. Soon to be released is the greatest loudspeaker that has ever appeared in the course of human history.

Wow. Well basically whoever DOES hear them should certainly brace themselves.

earlmarc · « **Reply #2 on:** 25 Jun 2006, 05:10 pm »

Here are some close-ups of the LSA Model 2: www.dkdesigngroup.com/images/LSA.jpg

tvad4 · « **Reply #3 on:** 25 Jun 2006, 06:24 pm »

I've heard the LSA Model 1 monitors in my system. Quite good. Big, room filling sound for monitors. Nice imaging. Wide sweetspot. Speakers to use for listening to music, not for anal retentive, critical audiophile listening. The only downside thought was a touch of grain and etch in the highs. This might have smoothed out after more hours. I had maybe 100 hours on them. Also, I was running them with jumpers, and the LSA Group strongly recommends bi-wiring for best results.

The LSA2 would certainly be worth auditioning, and there are higher level versions of the LSA2 coming. I'm not certain of what makes the higher level LSA2s different, although I believe it's the crossover design/parts.

FredT300B · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 Jun 2006, 01:33 am »

I was at a Houston Audio Society meeting a few weeks ago where Brian Worford, LSA Group VP, demoed the DK amp (an upgraded model modded by John Tucker of Exemplar Audio) with the floorstanders and the monitor speakers. The floorstander would be your typcial $4K speaker if it were offered by a high end European or US manufacturer. At $2.5K the Model 2 seems to be a good value, and would be on my short list if I were looking for a speaker in that price range.

earlmarc · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 Jun 2006, 09:37 pm »

Had a interesting conversation today with LSA about the LSA-2 speakers. LSA stands for Larry Staples Audio. Larry Staple was the former VP of Sales/Marketing for Thiel Speakers. LSA's design philosphy is to design their speakers to sound like a musical event. Engineering follows voicing their speakers by Larry's keen ears. LSA sale's VP is a former salesman of Nicholson HiFi in Nashville TN. He stated that Nicholson HiFi carries the LSA-2 speakers as well as other brands from Thiel and B&W and the feedback from Nicholson is that the LSA-2 is hurting the sales of the Thiel CS2.4 speakers and the B&W 803 speakers.

I hope to review these speakers as well as other offerings from LSA.

Stay Tuned.

launche · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 Jun 2006, 10:29 pm »

You know I heard these speakers briefly a few months ago and they sounded good. My dealer was going to give them to me for a price that was most attractive. It was not what I was looking for at the time. Today, I can kick myself for not buying them as they would fit the bill almost perfectly in my current frame of mind. All day today I was telling myself what a fool I am.

Occam · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 Jun 2006, 11:18 pm »

Quote from: earlmarc on 26 Jun 2006, 09:37 pm

Had a interesting conversation today with LSA about the LSA-2 speakers. LSA stands for Larry Staples Audio. Larry Staple was the former VP of Sales/Marketing for Thiel Speakers. LSA's design philosphy is to design their speakers to sound like a musical event. Engineering follows voicing their speakers by Larry's keen ears. LSA sale's VP is a former salesman of Nicholson HiFi in Nashville TN. He stated that Nicholson HiFi carries the LSA-2 speakers as well as other brands from Thiel and B&W and the feedback from Nicholson is that the LSA-2 is hurting the sales of the Thiel CS2.4 speakers and the B&W 803 speakers.

I hope to review these speakers as well as other offerings from LSA.

Stay Tuned.

Stay tuned for what? Your repettition of whatever the vendor of the product du jour has to say? Do you think it appropriate to pass on unverified assertions at a vendor's behest?

Stay tuned to another 4-6 pages of substanceless twaddle, before you cadge a loan for your free advertising for a product you've yet to hear? Its not that I don't think the products you sequentially shill lack merit, its just that it takes wading though these tedious posts ('I've got a hunch....') before someone increases the signal to noise ratio. Your enthusiasm is quite sweet. And these vendors don't have scads of money for conventional advertising so using everybody's sockpuppet does make sense.
Absolutely, I don't have to read your threads. I read them every few days to see if there is actaully anything of substance. Eight frigg'n pages on the Dussun du jour with squat to show for it, save for the fact that you feel that the preamp out, poweramp in sockets aren't shiny enough and up to to notion of audio jewelry and you expertise calls for an upgrade...... Its akin to watching paint dry while Jerry Lewis is leading us in cheers.

Then again, many might feel your threads and posts are just jampacked with useful information.

YMMV

earlmarc · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 Jun 2006, 11:50 pm »

Occam, I am enthusiastic about products which I feel offer great value for the money. I have no affilation with any vendor other than contacting them to find out information about their products and sharing that information with audiocircle members. Why would sharing this information seem inappropriate to you? Should I verify information provided by the vendor? In fact, in some cases I do. You imply that I cadge a loan for free advertising. That's ridiculous! Why would you even think that?

If I bore and offend you, I offer no apologies for being myself. I am a genuine person who enjoys this hobby and like sharing. If you would like me to offer more substance in my writing, I'm open to your recommendations.

Steve · « **Reply #9 on:** 27 Jun 2006, 12:33 am »

I do not appreciate my company being indirectly dragged into this mess, and the message implied. When Earlmarc auditioned my 10A preamp and amp (he purchased the 10A), I had no knowledge he was going to write a review. I never solicit nor edit reviews from anyone. Earlmarc is definitely not a shill or sockpuppet of mine. Never has and never will. My company is built on high ethical standards.

Hope this states my position clearly.

Occam · « **Reply #10 on:** 27 Jun 2006, 12:37 am »

Earlmarc,

As I said, I really do find your enthusiasm charming. Nor do I have any problems with your contacting vendor's for info, or getting loans of products for evaluation. Nor do I dispute that lucky subject of your serial enthusiams might well offer material (as well as occasionally, sonic) value. I was just commenting on the incredibly low signal to noise ratio. You're not Charles Dickens who was paid by the word, it just seems that way

But I do find it oxymoronic that you'd post ANYTHING in the Critic's Circle.
I've no issues whatsoever with the vendors of the products that you start you threads about.
You're an enthusiastic cheerleader (you don't have to actually have heard the product, your giddy anticipation is more than enough) and I'm a cynical prick.

tvad4 · « **Reply #11 on:** 27 Jun 2006, 12:42 am »

I'm the one who first commented on the quality of the Dussun's RCAs, so I'll take the heat for that.

I appreciate anytime someone offers opinions about new and interesting components, especially like the Dussun amp that very few folks have heard. I encourage others to share their listening experiences no matter the level of expertise. It's all valuable, IMO.

From one cynical prick to another.

earlmarc · « **Reply #12 on:** 27 Jun 2006, 12:43 am »

Occam, actually most of my posting are in critic's circle. You reffered to the Dussun V8i, I wrote a review. I write reviews on most components I experience.

JLM · « **Reply #13 on:** 27 Jun 2006, 10:11 am »

From the DK site regarding their LSA10 speakers:

"Ladies and gentlemen brace yourselves. Audio manufacturers run for cover. Soon to be released is the greatest loudspeaker that has ever appeared in the course of human history."

What else is left to be said?

pingong · « **Reply #14 on:** 27 Jul 2006, 10:39 am »

Quote from: tvad4 on 27 Jun 2006, 12:42 am

I'm the one who first commented on the quality of the Dussun's RCAs, so I'll take the heat for that.

I appreciate anytime someone offers opinions about new and interesting components, especially like the Dussun amp that very few folks have heard. I encourage others to share their listening experiences no matter the level of expertise. It's all valuable, IMO.

From one cynical prick to another.

Just saw it this morning.

It is all my fault. And this earlmarc has problem too... He wrote me a check and paid long distance call (unless he has VOIP phone or some service with free long distance call) for reviewing Dussun. I only knew he did a review some time later.

“ Music is my recreational drug… I need a dose, every day “, my audiophile friend.

http://www.audioasylum.com/scripts/t.pl?f=general&m=447034

My apologies.

Cheers,
Ping

hibuckhobby · « **Reply #15 on:** 27 Jul 2006, 01:11 pm »

Quote from: Occam on 27 Jun 2006, 12:37 am

I've no issues whatsoever with the vendors of the products that you start you threads about.
You're an enthusiastic cheerleader (you don't have to actually have heard the product, your giddy anticipation is more than enough) and I'm a cynical prick.

It's always good to know oneself

hibuckhobby

fredgarvin · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 Jul 2006, 02:30 pm »

Thanks for the info earlmarc, its nice to have something new around here to look into rather than the 3 or 4 products discussed ad nauseum. I find your discussions much more interesting than debating over the highly interesting prongs on a power cord...

emotnlk · « **Reply #17 on:** 1 Oct 2006, 02:51 pm »

I have purchased the LSA speakers from Nicholson's in Nashville. I demo'd them against B&W and Thiel. B&W is about 3 times in price for speakers AND amplifications requirements to get the same full rich should as the LSA Reference Speakers. B&W has great tonal quality but no image and detail on the high end requires a ton of current. $8000

The Thiel is an awesome speaker. It is accurate to a flaw. It reproduces music exactly as it is recorded. At $4400 it was my choice until compared to the LSA.

The LSA provided image and emotion to the music without losing detail or becoming to muddy. It had a rounder bass response and a much larger sweet spot for listening in normal circumstances. My wife said she started to tear up during Nessum Dorma. $2500.

Everything is relative to one's ear. I think at a minimum if you like good sound, want to pay a fair dollar for a solid product, and you don't buy over-priced name plates to make of for a shortage in your man-hood, these deserve a fair listen.

Cheers!

launche · « **Reply #18 on:** 1 Oct 2006, 04:56 pm »

THE LSA 2 is a nice speaker, reminded me a bit of the VS VR4 Jr.

Directly compared to The Amphion Xenon and Jas Audio Orsus I found the LSA 2 to have less clarity, transparency and air. Also I thought the soundstage to have less depth and openness. The LSA 2 did have more satisfying mid and lower bass authority, how accurate it was I could not be sure of. All and all a very satisfying speaker and is tops on my list for the deal that got away