Amp for RM30?!

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Premuda

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« on: 14 Feb 2006, 01:08 pm »
Who would be the best budy(integrated)for my future RM30?!  Tact s2150  ( use -1,8k$-150w/8ohm) or Gryphon Callisto(( use-4k$ (200w/8ohm)?!. Are they too much powerfull for RM30 sensibility of high(93db) and low(91db)?! If you knew for some other brand-model , just add your suggestion! yes,it could be a cheaper solution too!

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« Reply #1 on: 14 Feb 2006, 01:55 pm »
I am most curious about the tact s2150.  If anyone has tried one with any vmps speakers, what were your impressions?

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« Reply #2 on: 14 Feb 2006, 02:49 pm »
If you go TacT, you must get it upgraded by Anthony Padilla at Aberdeen Components.

Takes the TacT to a totally different level.

In the stock form the amp is ok.

Looks like your budget is up to $4k.  If that is correct, I would absolutely include the McCormack DNA-500.  Great match for VMPS.

Some others to think about:

CIA D-200
Belles Ref 350A

Best of luck.

George

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« Reply #3 on: 14 Feb 2006, 08:02 pm »
Quote from: Premuda
Who would be the best budy(integrated)for my future RM30?!  Tact s2150  ( use -1,8k$-150w/8ohm) or Gryphon Callisto(( use-4k$ (200w/8ohm)?!. Are they too much powerfull for RM30 sensibility of high(93db) and low(91db)?! If you knew for some other brand-model , just add your suggestion! yes,it could be a cheaper solution too!

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Asking me this today, I would have to vote for the NuForce and Ampzilla as being the Best I have heard.  Also in that list (if you like tubes) would be the Bruce Moore Monoblocs (@ $15k) for "clean neutrality" I would also look at the new C-Series SST Brystons.

Do not worry about "overpowering" the RM30s, they love power, and give the best dynamics and cleanest sonics with rather powerful amps.

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« Reply #4 on: 14 Feb 2006, 08:20 pm »
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If you go TacT, you must get it upgraded by Anthony Padilla at Aberdeen Components.

Takes the TacT to a totally different level.

In the stock form the amp is ok.

Looks like your budget is up to $4k.  If that is correct, I would absolutely include the McCormack DNA-500.  Great match for VMPS.

Some others to think about:

CIA D-200
Belles Ref 350A

Best of luck.

George


What I really like about the tact is the digital input, as I am a digital kind of guy.  The less interconnects anywhere in my system, the better.  I am definately into the mods as well.  What I would like to know really, is what does it sound like.  There is no way I will get to hear one before buying it, and will probably go the used route in case I hate it.

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« Reply #5 on: 14 Feb 2006, 09:02 pm »
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Asking me this today, I would have to vote for the NuForce and Ampzilla as being the Best I have heard.  Also in that list (if you like tubes) would be the Bruce Moore Monoblocs (@ $15k) for "clean neutrality" I would also look at the new C-Series SST Brystons.

Do not worry about "overpowering" the RM30s, they love power, and give the best dynamics and cleanest sonics with rather powerful amps.


You certainly can't go too far wrong with a Bryston. They're built really well and they hold their value.

The AVA Ultra 350 or 550 might be worth a look too. There's an Audio by Van Alstine Circle here if you're interested.

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« Reply #6 on: 14 Feb 2006, 09:35 pm »
With my RM 40's I'm using an Innersound ESL amp.  This amp is capable of the most liquid female vocals and a treble with realism I've ever heard before. The bass is also excellent. These don't come up for sale much but run from about 1,100 to 1,500 used. They're about 4k new I believe. This amp is actually made by Coda which is a group of engineers that worked with Nelson Pass at Threshold.

The amp puts out 300wpc into 8 and 600wpc into 4 ohms. Your RM 30's will handle it with ease.  My RM 40's never sound strained even cranked with peaks at the listening position hitting the high 90db range.

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« Reply #7 on: 14 Feb 2006, 10:18 pm »
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What I really like about the tact is the digital input, as I am a digital kind of guy.  The less interconnects anywhere in my system, the better.  I am definately into the mods as well.  What I would like to know really, is what does it sound like.  There is no way I will get to hear one before buying it, and will probably go the used route in case I hate it.


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I am using the Tact Boz 2200/216 amps to triamp my RM30's and am very pleased with the result although digital crossovers do take a bit of work to optimize with the Rm30's.  Before the Boz amps I used the 2150 and was very happy with them - I changed because of the greater ease with which the Boz system does the crossovers.  I still use a 2150 for the corner Tact subs.
The upgraded 2150 now available has the same functionality as the Boz system.
I suspect you may well like the 2150's  :D

Regards

Jose

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« Reply #8 on: 15 Feb 2006, 01:16 am »
Premuda,

I recently auditioned a pair of RM30M speakers in a 25x30x16 listening room on a SST Bryston Amp (300 W / channel I think) and my NAD C372 integrated amp.  The Bryston setup did offer slightly better bass slam, but in a smaller room you might not notice a difference.   What is the size of your listening room?   Also the Bryston setup is many times the cost of the NAD C372 (150 W @ 8 ohm or 4 ohm, but 305 W dynamic @ 4 ohm).  If you want more power out of an integrated amp try getting a used Musical Fidelity A5 (250 W @ 8 ohm and 400 W @ 4 ohm) would also be a good choice.  

Good luck!!

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« Reply #9 on: 15 Feb 2006, 03:57 am »
VMPS voices their speakers with the Son of Ampzilla amplifier.  A dealer whose golden ears I greatly respect, who sells both components, says it's a match made in heaven.

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« Reply #10 on: 15 Feb 2006, 09:26 am »
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Tact s2150  ( used -1,8k$-150w/8ohm) or Gryphon Callisto(( used -4k$ (200w/8ohm)?!. Are they too much powerfull for RM30 sensibility of high(93db) and low(91db)?!


I know from experience that some Gryphon amplifiers are wonderful match to VMPS. RM40 FST / Gryphon Antileon is still one of the best audio systems I heard, and RM30 M / Callisto combination I listened only briefly was also very good. But that was practically a new system and these things take time to fully optimize.

I tried Son of Ampzilla with RM30 M and RM2 and this would also be a very good solution.

I think no amplifier will be too powerful, RM30 M can handle more than 200W, a question is only how good an amplifier is.

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« Reply #11 on: 15 Feb 2006, 12:00 pm »
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Hi

I am using the Tact Boz 2200/216 amps to triamp my RM30's and am very pleased with the result although digital crossovers do take a bit of work to optimize with the Rm30's.  Before the Boz amps I used the 2150 and was very happy with them - I changed because of the greater ease with which the Boz system does the crossovers.  I still use a 2150 for the corner Tact subs.
The upgraded 2150 now available has the same functionality as the Boz system.
I suspect you may well like the 2150's  :D

Regards

Jose

Can you describe a sound of tact s2150?! Also .can you compare tact with some of your older amp's,i mean + and - compare to others. Thankful!

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« Reply #12 on: 15 Feb 2006, 01:28 pm »
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Premuda,

I recently auditioned a pair of RM30M speakers in a 25x30x16 listening room on a SST Bryston Amp (300 W / channel I think) and my NAD C372 integrated amp.  The Bryston setup did offer slightly better bass slam, but in a smaller room you might not notice a difference.   What is the size of your listening room?   Also the Bryston setup is many times the cost of the NAD C372 (150 W @ 8 ohm or 4 ohm, but 305 W dynamic @ 4 ohm).  If you want more power out of an integrated amp try getting a used Musi ...


Hi John
Room dimension are 4,5 l x3,5m w x 2,80 h,but in a future(few month to two years) will be biger (cca 7x4x2,5). Power is not my problem if RM 30 said ok ! I just want to be involved in MUSIC! Now i got an old infinity (reference 50) with some entry integrated denon and marantz cd-65-II. I'm not a kind of guy who trade his amps and loudspeakers to another every few month looking for holy grail, so my choice will last next 5-10 years!

Jose R.

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« Reply #13 on: 15 Feb 2006, 06:11 pm »
Quote from: Premuda
Can you describe a sound of tact s2150?! Also .can you compare tact with some of your older amp's,i mean + and - compare to others. Thankful!


Hi

I used valve monoblocks (Steinhart) for a few years and also tried various SS amps available locally incl Audio Synthesis and Electrocompaniet.  The Tact amps are of course digital and to me are very neutral.  The valve sound (using the Audio Aero Capitole CDP and preamp) was lovely and warmer but less detailed and looser on the bass.  The digital system is much more flexible especially if bi- or triamping.  Using digital crossovers and corner subs also takes one into another playing field completely.  I also use the Tact RCS 2.2x which is by far the most important component in the whole equation.  Room acoustic treatment is very important but the digital RCS is much more effective IMHO.
I suggest that you try to listen to the digital amps before you buy but it may lead you on another money-spending road ...  :?  

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Jose

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« Reply #14 on: 15 Feb 2006, 09:44 pm »
Tube/Transistor Research Labs make one of the best sounding CDP I've heard.  The company design systems for MRI machines; one of their engineers was a highly-placed H-P system troubleshooter.   My next amp will probably be their $4k 225WRMS solid-state stereo power amp.  TRL says it beats their $70k tube amp.  My only association is as a customer.    

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« Reply #15 on: 15 Feb 2006, 10:23 pm »
It's funny how everyone has their favorite amps for the RM-30's. I have tried the Cary cinema 5 to great success(350 watt per) and now use the Cary 306A amp that is a class d digital amp with 1000 watts per for 4 ohm and it sounds great.

I would agree the more power the better but have heard these with much less power and they sound great but not as evolving.

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Doug Ravizza

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« Reply #16 on: 15 Feb 2006, 11:17 pm »
Well you can call me "tin-eared" if you like but I've been bi-amping my RM40's with a pair of Sunfire 300's for about four months now and loving every minute of it.

-Doug

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« Reply #17 on: 16 Feb 2006, 12:54 pm »
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Well you can call me "tin-eared" if you like but I've been bi-amping my RM40's with a pair of Sunfire 300's for about four months now and loving every minute of it.

-Doug

Nice story,but ain't europe dealer! Am I wright Doug?!

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« Reply #18 on: 17 Feb 2006, 02:23 am »
Hi,

I've heard the nuforce integrated and it sounds pretty good.  

I also have an SOA and it is a good sounding amp but i think you mentioned that you want an integrated amplifier?  Is that correct.

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Rod