>Seems like you could just skip the very few irrelevant posts and enjoy this topic otherwise.
Yes, this is fine from the standpoint of moderation, imo. However, part of the audiophile community is stating what we like, and what we think is BS - such as SoundIdeas innocent posts - and why.
I don't see why BS, or even curious logic, should just be skipped over.
About the integrated: I don't hate it for the sound. I've never heard it. The marketing at its introduction on audiogon bugged me. And how many did they sell to get so many being dumped by owners? I've heard people complain about frequent upgrades to it....
Glad you were happy with yours and got rid of it for reasons other than its sound or value. I'd never buy one anywhere near new or used market price. These speakers are simply out of the question.