[Hattrick17]

Good day,
I am in the market for some new passive studio monitors and am strongly considering the new NX-Studio.   My biggest concern is how they translate after mixing providing you have a well treated room or if one uses room correction software tools like Dirac live with Mini DSP?    I am considering some Amphion One 18's as well or possibly another kit made by CSS being their CSS Criton 1TD-X  kit.    Any feedback from studio users would be great thank you.

[aterphasma]

I admit I'm a little biased in favor of Danny's designs, but... I really don't think it's a very close comparison between the CSS Criton 1TD-X and the NX Studio, even if I liked CSS better.

Open baffle, ribbon tweeter, and the M165NQ woofer... it's going to blow the CSS out of the water. CSS's "-X" upgrade changes the tweeter, but not the woofer. Open baffle with sealed woofer section vs all-in-one ported design.

At almost the same price for the NX Studio fully upgraded + a flatpack as the CSS 1TD-X with flatpack and full upgrades, I'd go with the NX Studio any day.

[Hattrick17]

Thank you for the feedback per comparing the CSS Speakers.    Have you mixed on the NX-Studio and how do they translate?  Now this is a tricky question being you have to have your control room be either treated correctly for mixing or using room correction DSP like Dirac via Mini DSP or Trinnov hardware in conjunction.  Or both.   This is my largest concern.   If the room is right for mixing how do the mixes translate to other devices?  Example, your listening room or car stereo?

[JCarney]

Hi Hattrick17, there is a pair of assembled Studio's for sale currently here on AC. You could get a pair for less, they are already assembled, and if they do not work, re-sale will be a breeze.

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=185190.msg1946287;topicseen#new

Good luck,
JCarney

[Hattrick17]

Cool I saw those and chimed in on those as well.   If the response from that thread is they translate great to other media hardware sources like stereo system or car stereo I will check out what the price is for these.   

[aterphasma]

Thank you for the feedback per comparing the CSS Speakers.    Have you mixed on the NX-Studio and how do they translate?  Now this is a tricky question being you have to have your control room be either treated correctly for mixing or using room correction DSP like Dirac via Mini DSP or Trinnov hardware in conjunction.  Or both.   This is my largest concern.   If the room is right for mixing how do the mixes translate to other devices?  Example, your listening room or car stereo?

Never been inside a control room, unfortunately, so I can't speak to their use there. I'd add a +1 to JCarney, you won't have any trouble reselling them, should they fail to meet your needs.

I have a different question: How does your current monitor sound compared to a car or home stereo system? Did you have to get used to the differences between mixing in a control room vs listening in a car, home theater, or living room?

[VinceT]

I don't know what some of these engineers are using to mix these days, but there is some bad recording being put out.

If you have the room treated and room correction down, Danny is all about flat and clean response and revealing speakers. In fact I'd say if there is a complaint to some about the studios is that they do that too well and lack some coloration/bloom that most are use to hearing with other speakers. And of course you want none of that in mixing.

[Hattrick17]

I don't know what some of these engineers are using to mix these days, but there is some bad recording being put out.

If you have the room treated and room correction down, Danny is all about flat and clean response and revealing speakers. In fact I'd say if there is a complaint to some about the studios is that they do that too well and lack some coloration/bloom that most are use to hearing with other speakers. And of course you want none of that in mixing.

Well in the old room and speaker position being done incorrectly the mixes didn't translate very well at all.   The new room has lots of engineering done to it per sound isolation. Being preventing leaking sound coming into the room or out of the control room to the upstairs of my home.    I am going to do some testing with my existing speakers which are passive Event 20/20 speakers.   First try the mixes with the mechanical room treatments.   If they still need more work I will go with a Mini DSP and Dirac Live room correction with the mechanical room treatments.   If I still find the mixes not up to snuff with the events I will purchase new speakers.   

I would love to hear from a studio owner being home or pro who is using these to mix with and their experience of what they have used prior to the NX in comparison.

[Danny Richie]

If they still need more work I will go with a Mini DSP and Dirac Live room correction with the mechanical room treatments.   If I still find the mixes not up to snuff with the events I will purchase new speakers.   

If you do get a pair of NX Studio Monitors into your system then you will quickly realize how much those devices are degrading the signal and the playback.

[Hattrick17]

Hi Danny,
Not sure how that could be possible?  Being DSP processing is used everywhere in the entertainment industry from Movies, TV and of course audio recording and reproduction.    DSP is just a sophisticated processor/software which one can see EQ curves per each speaker,  and correct each speakers issues within any room.   They are both measuring and correction tools.  The difference is you are just utilizing the measuring side of the software that is out there  and making corrections via your cross over network designs from your testing room.   

[Early B.]

Hi Danny,
Not sure how that could be possible?  Being DSP processing is used everywhere in the entertainment industry from Movies, TV and of course audio recording and reproduction.    DSP is just a sophisticated processor/software which one can see EQ curves per each speaker,  and correct each speakers issues within any room.   They are both measuring and correction tools.  The difference is you are just utilizing the measuring side of the software that is out there  and making corrections via your cross over network designs from your testing room.

You're describing what DSP is, but Danny is referring to how Mini DSP/Dirac sounds. He's suggesting that you hear the differences for yourself once you buy/build the NX Studios.  Bottom line -- keep it simple. Don't place unnecessary components in the signal path.

[NXSTUDIO-DRUMMER]

Hattrick17,
I'm going to translate this to you simply, I've been playing percussion for over 50 years. I've been in and out of studio's, and have heard various monitors speaker manufactuers through the years.  I've never heard a speaker monitor as accurate as the NX-Studio's. Regardless what your running Dirac, Mini DSP, etc., I'll put these speakers up against anything in terms of accuracy.

 I've had many decent home audiophile speakers through the years, yet these monitors perform in a household competing on a world class level. I'll even reach out on a limb to say, I'll bet they will out perform your existing monitor speakers. Is that a arrogant confident comment?  ... You bet ya! These speakers are that accurate. 

My suggestion at this point for you, call Danny up directly, rather than dealing with the forum. Even as great as this site is, Danny is the source you need to talk to. I've given my two cents worth, with what my experience with my NX-STUDIO'S.  How their going to translate?  That's going to be subjective, no matter what manufacturer you go with. You have choices and you'll just have to make the plunge. I understand your being selective, I was too, and have never had any reservations about my purchasing the kit.  The only down fall I see with these speakers? I'm disspointed listening to almost everything else out on the market. 
 
I don't market for Danny,
 However, my GR product purchase, constantly impresses me to levels I've never heard from any Studio monitors! I hope you find your ultimate monitor in your search!

Best of luck,
NX-STUDIO DRUMMER

Note: The guy that's selling his speakers on A.C., that were built by Mike Lundy, are a great deal!  Mike Lundy is a excellent builder of speaker kits, and the finish on those speakers is stunning!  If your seriously in the market, I would jump all over those puppies! 

[Danny Richie]

Hi Danny,
Not sure how that could be possible?  Being DSP processing is used everywhere in the entertainment industry from Movies, TV and of course audio recording and reproduction.    DSP is just a sophisticated processor/software which one can see EQ curves per each speaker,  and correct each speakers issues within any room.   They are both measuring and correction tools.  The difference is you are just utilizing the measuring side of the software that is out there  and making corrections via your cross over network designs from your testing room.

When using one of those devices to fix phase and amplitude issues in the digital domain and you are still using your DAC (a high quality DAC), then there are some things to gain. However, there can still be some negatives and added noise that can be added from their power supplies, cables, etc.

For a speaker like the NX Studio that has a high level of accuracy then why? There is nothing to correct.

Now when using a device like the MiniDSP where you are using its D/A converter, and its analog output stage, then you are going to figure out real quickly that the sound quality (poor detail levels, and flat sound stage) lag far behind high quality DAC's.

Spend your money on a high quality DAC and you will never look back.