Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit

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Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit
« on: 15 Mar 2022, 01:09 am »
I have a question about the upgrade kit for the Sonus Faber Venere 2.5.  I would like to continue to bi-amp the speakers. Does the crossover schematic need to be modified or tweaked in order to accomodate this?

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Re: Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit
« Reply #1 on: 15 Mar 2022, 03:36 am »
Generally speaking, we don't recommend bi-amping, but it is possible to do

You can put the tweeter and upper woofer on one input and the lower woofer on the other input.
The other option is to put the tweeter on one input, and the two woofers on the other input.

You will either need a 2nd set of tube connectors, or use the tube connectors with the tweeter and the binding post for the woofers.

Danny Richie

Re: Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit
« Reply #2 on: 17 Mar 2022, 12:52 pm »

dB Cooper

Re: Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit
« Reply #3 on: 17 Mar 2022, 02:00 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the following.


I only got about halfway through because of youtube's irritating ad interruptions but it seems most of the discussion seemed to be focused on the amplifier.


I have always been given to understand that the main benefit of biamping is not the amplification per se, but that biamping with active crossovers between the preamp and power amp(s) allows designers to do things that are essentially impossible with passive crossovers built into speakers- in particular, that crossover slopes can be much steeper than is practical with passives, better achieving the purpose of a crossover, which is to bandwidth-limit each driver to the range it can handle well. Since less amplifier power is wasted heating up resistors in crossover networks, power delivery would be more efficient too, although this may be less important / tangible because watts are cheap.


If this is true, the benefits of biamping won't really be obtained doing the crossover/driver bandwidth limiting between the amp and speakers as implied in the OP. The limitations of a passive network are all still there. The main benefit would be to whoever sold the amplifiers. In other words, biamping- assuming active line level crossovers- is more for the benefit of the speaker drivers than for the amp. Thoughts?

Danny Richie

Re: Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 Upgrade Kit
« Reply #4 on: 24 Mar 2022, 12:45 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the following.


I only got about halfway through because of youtube's irritating ad interruptions but it seems most of the discussion seemed to be focused on the amplifier.


I have always been given to understand that the main benefit of biamping is not the amplification per se, but that biamping with active crossovers between the preamp and power amp(s) allows designers to do things that are essentially impossible with passive crossovers built into speakers- in particular, that crossover slopes can be much steeper than is practical with passives, better achieving the purpose of a crossover, which is to bandwidth-limit each driver to the range it can handle well. Since less amplifier power is wasted heating up resistors in crossover networks, power delivery would be more efficient too, although this may be less important / tangible because watts are cheap.


If this is true, the benefits of biamping won't really be obtained doing the crossover/driver bandwidth limiting between the amp and speakers as implied in the OP. The limitations of a passive network are all still there. The main benefit would be to whoever sold the amplifiers. In other words, biamping- assuming active line level crossovers- is more for the benefit of the speaker drivers than for the amp. Thoughts?

You might want to watch it all the way through and it may answer your questions. You can also skip the ads if you don't want to watch them.