Tube life with U70

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Christophe35

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Tube life with U70
« on: 25 Jul 2005, 01:17 pm »
Hi everyone,

How many hours will the tubes work good in a U70 amp, especially the EL34 ?
If this amp is on around 12h/day (with something playing 2/3 of the time), when will the tube will need to be changed ?

Christophe

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« Reply #1 on: 26 Jul 2005, 11:22 am »
First of all, if the unit is just on idling 4 hours a day you can extend tube life by simply turning it off.  Warm up time is only a few seconds, and the tubes are used up all the time it is on, playing music or not.

Tube life is hard to predict, should be several years, but might only be months.  We have thousands of the older 70i version out there and sell very few replacement tubes.  The U70 should not be any harder on tubes than the 70i is.

We are using JJ Electronic EL34 tubes at this tiime with good success.

Frank Van Alstine

Christophe35

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Jul 2005, 10:13 pm »
Thanks for the information. This confirm what I was thinking, some say that power tubes must be replaced after 2500-3000 hours, some other used a set of tubes much more than that time..

About turning of a tube amplifier when it does not play music, is it interresting to do that if the amplifier stay , for instance, 15 minutes playing nothing ? (I often read that power up an amplifier is not good for the power tubes so it is better to let it on if it doesn't work for a short time ...).

Christophe

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« Reply #3 on: 4 Aug 2005, 01:12 pm »
Quote from: Christophe35
Thanks for the information. This confirm what I was thinking, some say that power tubes must be replaced after 2500-3000 hours, some other used a set of tubes much more than that time..

About turning of a tube amplifier when it does not play music, is it interresting to do that if the amplifier stay , for instance, 15 minutes playing nothing ? (I often read that power up an amplifier is not good for the power tubes so it is better to let it on if it doesn't work for a short time ...).

Christophe


Don't worry about short periods like 15 minutes. You can just leave the amp on.

Yes, as a general rule the heaters in tubes are more likely to fail at turnon, just like lightbulbs do.

However, there is also a finite amount of electrons that can be boiled off of the cathode before the coating wears out.

So you don't want to turn the equipment on and off too much, but you also don't want to just leave it on.

I tend to leave my system on if I'll be coming back in a few hours, but I'll turn it off if it's going to be longer than that.

Tubes are actually pretty sturdy. They were used in consumer radios and TVs for a long time, and they lasted quite well. They even lasted very well in car radios, and that's a harsh environment.

I just found an old GE "portable" AM radio, with a lead-acid battery and vibrator. I'm sure the caps are flaky or not working at all by this point, but I bet the tubes are fine. :-)

I also fired up an old GE AM/Shortwave table radio and it still works. I bet it had been sitting for 25+ years. I used it a lot when I was around 9-11 and my parents used it a lot before that. The only things that burned out were the lightbulbs for the dial. :-)