How much is TOO much?

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eric the red

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« on: 16 Feb 2005, 09:50 pm »
I got booted off the Audio Asylum island for bringing this up and subsequently deleted my account there (it's so easy and fun to do :hyper:) and it may be none of my buisness, but.... A few weeks ago I congratulated an AA user with whom I had a bone to pick (DonT) for his four year AA anniversary post count of over 11500 posts and thought (in print, in the post) that it must be some kind of record. Simple math tells me that 11500 posts in 4 years comes out to 1 post every three hours every day for 4 years straight. Before the thread got banished to their "Water Cooler"  (look it up, it's there for all to see), someone else mentioned that ViktorK of BAT fame had posted over 21000 times over the past 5 years which, if he slept for 8 hours a night as was pointed out, meant that Viktor had posted on average once every hour that he was awake every day for the last 5 years (This comment was deleted by the AA moderators after one day). If Viktor spent 5 minutes on each post, that comes out to over 71 DAYS spent posting in 5 years. DonT also pointed out someone who had posted at AA over 3000 times in the last 3 months.  Am I out of line here to be commenting on how much time someone posts on an audio board or is 3000-4000 posts a year on the same board (ANYWHERE for that matter) kind of nuts? Is this hobby that obsessive for some people? I can understand that many posts if you are directly involved with the board itself, but c'mon...

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« Reply #1 on: 16 Feb 2005, 10:47 pm »
That's strange, but hey, I've been kicked off places such as AVS for stupid crap like that too.  It's like "WTF?!?".  I pissed off the guy at SVS and BLAMMO, I get kicked off and he stays, despite him calling me quite a few choice names.  It's all who you know and/or piss off sometimes.

I don't know how Ka7niq (?) stays on AA if you got kicked off.  Heck, I've probably said more PI stuff.

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« Reply #2 on: 16 Feb 2005, 11:02 pm »
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That's strange, but hey, I've been kicked off places such as AVS for stupid crap like that too.  It's like "WTF?!?".  I pissed off the guy at SVS and BLAMMO, I get kicked off and he stays, despite him calling me quite a few choice names.  It's all who you know and/or piss off sometimes.

I don't know how Ka7niq (?) stays on AA if you got kicked off.  Heck, I've probably said more PI stuff.


But your well known as being Alimental/l now on AVS and haven't been kicked off after your rebirth.  The SVS guys aren't very well liked excepted by SVS owners.   I'd agree that you were the far lesser problem when they booted you.

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« Reply #3 on: 17 Feb 2005, 02:02 am »
Excuse me, but do I know you?  I'd like to take that as a compliment, but what or who is "alimental/l"?

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« Reply #4 on: 17 Feb 2005, 02:05 am »
That is ludicrous they would kick you off for that post. I saw and thought it was actually interesting.  I'd like to know why. Is there more you're not telling us.

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« Reply #5 on: 17 Feb 2005, 05:56 am »
I never said that AA booted me off. My original post on AA got booted off the island  into their "Water Cooler" after about  4 hours by the AA moderators so . I deleted my AA moniker myself after over the years seeing how many people take that site and themselves  so seriously,  like the guy who equated me not listing my system with some kind of character flaw. One guy told me that he doesn't discuss mid-fi ever and never responds to unregistered posters at AA.  The latest "new cable forum rules" post in AA's general forum that got moved to "Whiner's Whoad" is another example of heavy-handed moderation IMO.  The more rules an internet audio board adopts the less I am interested in it. I guess I'm just nostalgic for the old AR days when anything goes was the normal and where there was a very wide range of  uncensored opinions presented all the time and everyone had fun with it. But then, what do I know? :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #6 on: 17 Feb 2005, 01:09 pm »
That many posts in that time frame is crazy!

I practically live here and don't have anywhere close to that number....

I must be a slacker.... :(

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« Reply #7 on: 18 Feb 2005, 12:21 am »
I don't know. If you read the data on AA posted by Rod M. the webmaster, it is clear they have a amazing amount of traffic there. If you look at some sites as small towns, AA would be a big city. Lets face it. Not everyone gets along or sees eye to eye. There is a constant battle between people who hear differences in cables and those who don't. I think AA has established a lot of forums to try and accommodate these debates, and filter the trolls. Tough job IMO.

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« Reply #8 on: 18 Feb 2005, 01:51 pm »
Eric,

I would likely have quelled it too if I were moderating, assuming you had a history of friction with donT as you say. The post is more personal poison dart than anything else. Did you really intend to start a discussion about posting frequency?

That said, I agree with you in general that AA is arbitrary and cliquish in its enforcement of its ever increasing rules.  Many boors and bullys get free reign to make folks feel like idiots, while often interesting topics are deleted. Some boards are OK (the manufacturers, Tube DIY, SET) but overall, it is not really worth posting there anymore IMO. I find myself lurking there less and less as time goes on.

The frequency of posting does not shock me. Even in Victor's case, 16 posts could easily have been put up inside of an hour, depending on typing skills.  I spend an hour or two a day flying around my favorite sites (not all of it audio), so I do not see Victor's activity as overboard. The only observation I can make is that He and DonT like AA. Now that is shocking.

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Rob

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« Reply #9 on: 21 Feb 2005, 02:17 am »
I used to be quite active on the PA and the AR forums. But as soon as i mentioned that i was looking for different speakers i got so much critizism that i left. I think that some take this hobby to seriously, yes its great to put all your knowledge into it. But i have learnd that there is no perfect setup and everybody hears different. There was a time not long ago where i would have bet my own butt that there was nothing better than a Maggie. But i finally stepped out into the light and tried something different.

For some reason every question or tip turns into a huge war in the PA and AR forums. Either its someone with a Sony Receiver and a MMG talking crap about a Krell and 3.6R combo, or its someone that doesnt believe in High End. Or it can be people, that dont like seing someone sell on of the best speakers to try something different.

Anyway i like this AC !!  People seem to respect each other a lot more, and since this forum is not filled with adverts by B&W, Sony, Axicom etc... it makes a nice relaxing and great place to learn. Plus, the moderators dont seem to be Anal and let people have their little arguments as long as they dont get big and offensive.

-Florian

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« Reply #10 on: 21 Feb 2005, 02:34 am »
Quote from: Florian
 Anyway i like this AC !! People seem to respect each other a lot more, and since this forum is not filled with adverts by B&W, Sony, Axicom etc... it makes a nice relaxing and great place to learn. Plus, the moderators dont seem to be Anal and let people have their little arguments as long as they dont get big and offensive.  
Hey, I agree. Could it be with a smaller group of members here there's less "trouble". Might be. But I think most understand where each other is coming from, and as people post you understand their likes and dislikes more. And if you get into a regional local group, Gateway, NY Rave, So Cal, ect. , you really get to know the people. :D

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« Reply #11 on: 21 Feb 2005, 03:13 am »
Dado5 - There is a definite hierarchy at AA and  posts get shuffled around accordingly. Yes I was trying to bait DonT as he had earlier baited someone on how many times they had posted. And yes there is a lot of information on AA, but there is also a lot of audio-cliched one upsmanship going on there too. All in all this board is a much more forgiving and fun place to post. I still think it's very unusual for someone to spend that much time on an internet audio board posting that much. I'm afraid I'm in the minority here and find that even more unusual. YMMV