Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?

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fado

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Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« on: 30 Aug 2019, 12:04 am »
I have hardwood floors and 125lb speakers with spike type leveling footers. I am looking for items to place under the spikes that will allow me to slide the speakers on the floor instead of lifting them - which is non-starter for me. I will not need to slide them 20' across the room - probably ~6" to a few feet.

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Re: Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« Reply #1 on: 30 Aug 2019, 12:17 am »
I have hardwood floors and 125lb speakers with spike type leveling footers. I am looking for items to place under the spikes that will allow me to slide the speakers on the floor instead of lifting them - which is non-starter for me. I will not need to slide them 20' across the room - probably ~6" to a few feet.

I have hardwood floors and have owned 3 pairs of loudspeakers with spikes. Nothing has ever worked better for me than Herbie's Cone/Spike Decoupling Glider's. https://herbiesaudiolab.com/products/cone-spike-decoupling-glider

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Re: Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« Reply #2 on: 30 Aug 2019, 12:42 pm »
Fado would that be suspended hard wood floor? If so decouple if wood over concrete on grade spike. Herbies products for decoulping work very well.


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fado

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Re: Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« Reply #3 on: 30 Aug 2019, 05:19 pm »
The subfloor is 8" structural insulated panels (foam core panels, 5/8" OSB - styrofoam - 5/8" OSB; essentially a translated I beam.) The panels rest on standard post & beam supports in the crawl space. Alone these panels were a bit bouncy but in a different way than a poorly supported wood floor. I had 3/4" T&G plywood glued & screwed over the panels which really firmed them up. Then the finish floor is  3/4" T&G Quarter sawn white oak. The floor intallers rated it as very firm. The speakers will rest directly on the finish flooring. The goal is to enable a weakling to move the 125 lb speakers ~2 feet in any direction without creating grooves in the wood floor - I don't see "decoupling" as necessary but may not fully understand that.

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Re: Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« Reply #4 on: 30 Aug 2019, 05:33 pm »
Not sure this would be acceptable for you however what I’ve done in the past when faced with a similar problem was to remove the spikes and stick a furniture disk on the bottom of each spike holder. They’re made to stick onto chair legs etc so you can slide furniture around without scratching the floor.

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Re: Spike type speaker footers on hardwood floors?
« Reply #5 on: 30 Aug 2019, 07:07 pm »
Quote from: fado
I don't see "decoupling" as necessary but may not fully understand that.

One of the better illustrations that I've found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9-r83IvhI

The video shows the impact of decoupling (isolation) for both suspended wood floors and concrete floors.

I'm not suggesting that the Townshend product meets your expressed need to slide your speakers - I include it only to address your decoupling comment.

I knew of the video already because I have Townshend Podiums under my speakers, which sit on a suspended wood floor constructed from Trus Joint, OSB, etc..  I had Herbie's sliders prior to the Podiums.  The performance improvement - imaging, precision of placement in the acoustic space, attack and decay, etc. - from the Podiums was impressive, but then again, so was the price difference.  The recommended Herbie's product are a great solution to your original expressed need that will also improve your isolation.  (I still use Herbie's products under all of my components.)

If you wanted to improve your speakers' isolation from your house structure beyond the suggested Herbie's gliders, you'd probably want to look at products from the likes of IsoAcoustics or Townshend.  You could try to put furniture sliders under them as avta suggests, but as I think about it, that might be a problem, as sliding such a setup would likely stress the (differently implemented) 'floating' mechanisms of both manufacturer's products in ways not intended, and I'm not sure they'd return to a neutral position without first unloading them.  (I have IsoAcoustics Aperta stands under the speakers of my bedroom system, and IsoAcoustics Gaia IIIs on all of my subs, with their dedicated carpet spike platforms.)

Note that if you want to use furniture sliders under any isolation product, I'd probably remove any foam from the slider, as it will likely interfere with the performance of the isolation product.

That was probably more than you wanted, but I hope it was useful!