Path Audio Resistor connection?

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JOATMON

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Path Audio Resistor connection?
« on: 31 Jul 2018, 04:04 am »
I purchased some Path Audio resistors and they have a ground/shield wire on one side. I am wondering if I should connect this shield wire to the ground of the crossover network? Also, does it matter which direction I would connect it, as it will be in the signal path.

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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #1 on: 31 Jul 2018, 02:00 pm »
Most passive crossover networks have no shielded components.  Don't know why you would shield a resistor, with all the unshielded wires in and near the crossover.

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« Reply #2 on: 31 Jul 2018, 05:40 pm »
Most passive crossover networks have no shielded components.  Don't know why you would shield a resistor, with all the unshielded wires in and near the crossover.

This is the first time I am using these Path Audio resistors in a crossover circuit. I have read that they are among the best to use in speaker crossovers! I'm sure that the shield wire has a purpose, perhaps in another electronic circuit application?

I just wanted to give them a try to see if I could hear a difference! I'm guessing that it wouldn't hurt to connect the shield wire to ground in the circuit?


JohnR

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« Reply #3 on: 31 Jul 2018, 09:56 pm »
Their web page says to connect to the crossover negative. Not all amps have this connected to ground though.

I've never heard of individually shielded resistors.

JOATMON

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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #4 on: 1 Aug 2018, 01:11 am »
Their web page says to connect to the crossover negative. Not all amps have this connected to ground though.

I've never heard of individually shielded resistors.

Do you believe that perhaps this shield wire, when connected, could help with any type of EMF produced from inductors that may be close to a resistor?  Just my own speculation, as I'm no electrical engineer...lol

I'm also wondering if the shielded lead should be connected first or after the signal path flow. In other words, the speaker crossover output wire's positive side would connect first to this resistor, as this is the first component to be connected in the signal path. So I'm wondering if it mattered if I were to connect the single wire first, then on the backside that has the shielded wire, connect that to the ground and the other wire would continue on the hot side to the rest of the components on the crossover? Or should this be just the opposite with the shielded wire connected first to ground? :duh:

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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #5 on: 1 Aug 2018, 01:40 am »
Imagine a resistor directly in front of a tweeter that is shunted to ground.  Not only did you just cut the volume of the tweeter, you also dropped impedence of the circuit (which could make for a very unhappy amp)  Unless you have a decent handle on what's happening with the crossover circuit, I can't imagine that grounding each resistor is a good thing. 

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« Reply #6 on: 1 Aug 2018, 01:48 am »
Doubtful that the shield does anything meaningful in any realistic situation.
Just another audiophile misunderstanding.

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« Reply #7 on: 1 Aug 2018, 04:10 am »
Imagine a resistor directly in front of a tweeter that is shunted to ground.  Not only did you just cut the volume of the tweeter, you also dropped impedence of the circuit (which could make for a very unhappy amp)  Unless you have a decent handle on what's happening with the crossover circuit, I can't imagine that grounding each resistor is a good thing.

This resistor is in the signal path, not in a shunt position. The shield wire that is attached to these Path Audio resistors are only used as a shield when connected to the ground portion of the crossover. It is not connected in any way to the other 2 leads that are used in the resistor section.

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« Reply #8 on: 1 Aug 2018, 04:12 am »
Doubtful that the shield does anything meaningful in any realistic situation.
Just another audiophile misunderstanding.

So I wonder now why Path Audio has incorporated this shield in the first place? Hmmmm

ohenry

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« Reply #9 on: 1 Aug 2018, 04:18 am »
Joatmon, I'd just ground the shield and never, ever bring this up again.  :lol:

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« Reply #10 on: 1 Aug 2018, 04:53 am »
This resistor is in the signal path, not in a shunt position. The shield wire that is attached to these Path Audio resistors are only used as a shield when connected to the ground portion of the crossover. It is not connected in any way to the other 2 leads that are used in the resistor section.
OK, I get it now.  Can't see how it could hurt.  Like O'Henry said, just do it.

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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #11 on: 1 Aug 2018, 05:37 am »
OK guys, Thanks for y'all s inputs!

Just one last question, Would it make any difference if I hook up the shield wire to ground being in the front position where the signal comes in first, or should I connect it after the signal has entered the resistor and have the shield on the backside of the resistor to ground?

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« Reply #12 on: 1 Aug 2018, 04:24 pm »
You can just cut the shield wire off. It won't make any difference.

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a better plan for interference reduction, is to use a twisted pair speaker cable.
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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #13 on: 2 Aug 2018, 01:11 am »
Note: If your amps are full differential balanced like My Pass XA60.8, DO NOT connect the ground lead wire to the neg(-) since it has signal and is not to be ever connected to ground  all you will be doing is introducing signal (noise) to the shield, and that's counterproductive.

ohenry

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« Reply #14 on: 2 Aug 2018, 02:45 am »
Joatmon, I'd just ground the shield and never, ever bring this up again.  :lol:

Son of a ......   :lol:

JOATMON

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Re: Path Audio Resistor connection?
« Reply #15 on: 2 Aug 2018, 05:00 am »
Note: If your amps are full differential balanced like My Pass XA60.8, DO NOT connect the ground lead wire to the neg(-) since it has signal and is not to be ever connected to ground  all you will be doing is introducing signal (noise) to the shield, and that's counterproductive.

I'm assuming that you have already experienced this with a Path Audio resistor used in the signal path of a speaker crossover?