[jrock]

I was thinking about getting the Panny XR50 or the JVC FX-10 with further research it seems the Panny would work best for HT and a digital connection and the JVC would be best for analog SACD/DVD audio. I have a Denon 2900 that I would be hooking one of the receivers to.  My Speakers are Athena AS-F2's with AS-C1, AS-R1.  I was thinking about buying both receivers and using the panny for HT and JVC for DVD audio/SACD and two channel.  My Question is how would you set this up? Would I need different speakers for Bi-amping? Is it possible to use both? Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.

[MaxCast]

You can not connect two amps to the same speaker unless it is biampable.  Then you still would have dual volume controls and input connecting issues.
I would suggest buying both receivers and keeping the one that sounds best to you.

[Ears]

Jrock,
I tried running a jvc rx 10 on the lows and Pany 45 on the highs and it would be a nightmare to bi amp accurately this way at any given volume level.

I currently have two modified Pany 45's in a bi amped 2-6.1 channel set up and will not be looking to audition any H/T audio gear for some time to come.
The Panys can be bi amped as they have a digital out for daisy chaining them, and to say that they better my prior 8k pre/pro amp set up for H/T would be an understatement .

I just today gave my rx -10 away to an Employee as a Chritmas gift but it did sound better at analog than the 45.
The 50 is supposed to be somewhat better at analog than the 25/45 are so you could go that way...or check and see if the rx-10 has a digital out as it would be much better using the same model and one remote to bi amp for digital than to try and mix and match.

I beleive the rx-10 does have a digital out though and sounds pretty good for H/T digital.
But two of either would be even better ...even in stock form for H/T...just as long as your speakers are bi ampable.

Good luck

Greg

[Horizons]

Jrock,
I tried running a jvc rx 10 on the lows and Pany 45 on the highs and it would be a nightmare to bi amp accurately this way at any given volume level.

I currently have two modified Pany 45's in a bi amped 2-6.1 channel set up and will not be looking to audition any H/T audio gear for some time to come.
The Panys can be bi amped as they have a digital out for daisy chaining them, and to say that they better my prior 8k pre/pro amp set up for H/T would be an understatement .

I just today gave ...

I hope I'm not hijacking your thread but...
This gives me a very interesting idea. I have the JVC RX-10 due in tomorrow to drive my 4 ohm Maggie 1.6QRs. However, these speakers have biwire connections. I plan to use the analog/DVD Multi path in the JVC but could I use a "Y" on the inputs to drive two identical units with one driving the bass panel and one driving the tweeter panel? Seems like if they are identical, the gain settings would not be an issue and one remote would control both units simultaneously. Is there a flaw in my thinking?

[ToddSTS]

Why not use one JVC to biamp the speakers.  You have 5.1 channel inputs in DVD-Multi mode.  Just use the right and left surrounds.  If you want to get crazy you can stip the crossovers out, get the Behringer DCX2496 (digital xover) and use a JVC like Newform Research uses the XR45 in this article:

www.newformresearch.com

Click on Expert Advice, then What's New, then the August 2003 link.  Sorry I can't link directly to it but its in a frame.

If you're just going to bi-amp in stereo you only need one of these receivers (Panny/JVC) to do it.  Now if you wan't to bi-amp 5.1 or 6.1, then you need more than one.

Todd

[geneylim]

Jrock, the Athena's are not bi amp capable, and that's probably not what you wanted to do anyways. If I understand you correctly, you plan on  using a JVC and a Panny independently for music and home theater, you can connect both amps to all speakers...just make SURE that your amp that is not in use is turned OFF! A little bit risky if you have a mishap....if you go this route, I suggest unplugging the one that is not in use. You'll have less chance of error if you have to manually get up and adjust your system.

Gene

[Ears]

I hope I'm not hijacking your thread but...
This gives me a very interesting idea. I have the JVC RX-10 due in tomorrow to drive my 4 ohm Maggie 1.6QRs. However, these speakers have biwire connections. I plan to use the analog/DVD Multi path in the JVC but could I use a "Y" on the inputs to drive two identical units with one driving the bass panel and one driving the tweeter panel? Seems like if they are identical, the gain settings would not be an issue and one remote would control both units simultaneously. Is there a flaw in my thinking?

Not sure how this would work, but if you can make it work....I definitly reccomend using two over one.

Using two of any of these digital receivers makes for cleaner harder hitting bass,more distinct mids and cleaner highs with a big swing in dynamic output also.

Even though this amounts to passive bi amping...it is definitly worth it whith my 6ohm 88db speakers and theres no going back to using just one.

The only downside to using bi amped receivers, is you have to be a bit precise when using the remote for volume or one will be out of sync.

That... and whith the stock connectors which mine no longer have, you have twice as much fun hooking up 12 speaker wires



jrock,
You would have to constantly change the speaker wiring on 2-6 speakers to use both receivers seperatly.... this would be a pain imo.


Greg

[Spoonfed]

Earz,

so u got ur modded units back?  nice noticable improvement?

I think i might have to try find another XR45 (don't like my chances).  Though with bookshelfs (Quad 12L's) as mains and similar size for the rest of the system do u think that 2 bi-amped (can only bi-amp the centre/mains as rears are not biampable) would make a big improvment?

[Ears]

Hey Spoonfed..hows it going..

The modded Panys do away with the perceived slight siblance and the mids are fuller sounding and the mid bass packs a bit more wallop.

I just recently recieved my second modded 45...long story, and have mostly just used them for H/T.

It is nice having 12 sets of binding posts and iec sockets.

I also had a beefier digital coaxial socket installed and have a silver digital bybee on the coaxial in on the one 45 and the optical in on the other.

The 45 I am using on the lows needs a lot of break in still to catch up with the one I have had for over a month.

Two Pannys for 2 channel would be a plus for your set up and your center channel would benifit also imo.

Greg

[Spoonfed]

might have a ring around and see what i can dig up....... they are cetainly thin on the ground here now