Bryston portable digital audio player?

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Bryston portable digital audio player?
« on: 27 Jun 2016, 10:52 am »
Hi James,

As you may be aware, the personal audio market is one of the fastest growing segments in the audio industry.

Do you think that in the not-too-distant future, Bryston may come up with a portable digital audio player?  It can play digital audio files (like the BDP-1/2) and comes with its own DAC.

I am a huge fan of Bryston (besides my PMC speakers - I bought them before Bryston made speakers - everything else is Bryston in my home system).  However, due to work, I also travel a great deal and so spend a lot of time listening through headphones, either powered by digital audio players or my PC with a better DAC/headphone amp.

If Bryston has a range of personal audio products, I will (almost) buy them in a heartbeat.

What do you think about the possibility of this happening?

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Re: Bryston portable digital audio player?
« Reply #1 on: 27 Jun 2016, 11:10 am »
Hi James,

As you may be aware, the personal audio market is one of the fastest growing segments in the audio industry.

Do you think that in the not-too-distant future, Bryston may come up with a portable digital audio player?  It can play digital audio files (like the BDP-1/2) and comes with its own DAC.

I am a huge fan of Bryston (besides my PMC speakers - I bought them before Bryston made speakers - everything else is Bryston in my home system).  However, due to work, I also travel a great deal and so spend a lot of time listening through headphones, either powered by digital audio players or my PC with a better DAC/headphone amp.

If Bryston has a range of personal audio products, I will (almost) buy them in a heartbeat.

What do you think about the possibility of this happening?

Hi

It would be a different market for us for sure and I guess it would come down to cost as most of these personal products are mass produced and sell at mass produced prices.

james


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Re: Bryston portable digital audio player?
« Reply #2 on: 27 Jun 2016, 02:00 pm »
Hi James,

There is a wide range of prices for these portable digital audio players.  Cheap ones can be had for US$50 but some can sell for up to US$3,500 (a company called 'Astell & Kern' springs to mind.  http://www.astellnkern.com/)  And the price tag of a few thousand dollars does not seem to turn people off because AK has sold thousands of these.  I am not kidding.

Bryston products are certainly not cheap cheap cheap but you are always able to offer premium products at a reasonable price point - something many people on this forum recognise and appreciate.  I sincerely hope you will explore this market segment a little more and one day offer some killer products at reasonable prices.   


 
Hi

It would be a different market for us for sure and I guess it would come down to cost as most of these personal products are mass produced and sell at mass produced prices.

james

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Re: Bryston portable digital audio player?
« Reply #3 on: 28 Jun 2016, 09:30 am »
I don't think there's any Canadian maker of portable digital players. The headphone world is my main area of interest, and I daresay I'm probably the most crazed headphone user in this circle (if not all of Audiocircle based on what I've seen, though there's one guy who'd give me a run for the title).

As thrilled as I'd be to see Bryston enter the headfi game, it's a bloodthirsty market being dominated by cheap Chinese daps. I've had a couple of the more upscale ones run through my hands recently on review tours, but have been seriously underwhelmed by their quality, but hype matters more than actual quality sometimes (sadly) and there are a ton of "questionable" reviews that all sing praises for undeserving gear.

But as I was saying, as thrilled as I would be to see Bryston enter this market, I think it would be a very risky move for them. For one thing, they don't make anything that physically small. That's not to say that they wouldn't have the know-how to design something, but the infrastructure required is going to be quite different. Different casework, control systems, DACs, amplifier, etc. There's also a huge software and support side that'll be required. These all add up to big costs and high risks.

There's also the question of demographics. DAPs tend to be the playground of young urbanites who don't have the space for speaker systems. With the exception of the BHA-1, Bryston does not have much of a foothold in this realm. So now we're talking a large expansion of infrastructure, high costs to enter, and it's not even tapping strongly into their existing demographic. I'm not saying it's impossible, but from an armchair-analyst point of view that raises a ton of warning flags. That all said, if Bryston decides to dip their toe in the game, I'd be more than happy to offer my thoughts about the portables market.

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Re: Bryston portable digital audio player?
« Reply #4 on: 1 Jul 2016, 04:14 am »
Wouldn't mind a DAP (with a digital out) that could power planars and HD 800. I personally stopped using all of my DAPs because of the convenience of carrying an iPhone 6+. The iPhone's sound quality actually made me quit my search for DAPs. Also, the interface is leagues above any DAP I've tried.

I don't see Bryston going down this path, but if they did, I'd want them to take their time and get something that's going to sound really good with top headphones and have good UI that can be updated to maintain its value for years to come. Also, streaming is an absolute. It would have to hit all the checkmarks with flying colours to make me want to spend for a DAP and carry something besides an iPhone or another phone.