Headphone repair shop

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dB Cooper

Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #20 on: 15 Jun 2016, 08:13 pm »
Why hasn't anyone made the obvious suggestion: Send it in to whoever built it in the first place, have them fix it, and chalk it up to experience.

Sorry your topic almost got destroyed by threadwrecker.

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #21 on: 16 Jun 2016, 12:49 am »
for those who want to identify polarity,i used to do this check/test
i did this with speakers never done it with headphones
but the principle is the same
use a AA 1.5v battery,in the case of headphones i would also use
a resistor in series to limit the current to around 80mA
then tap connect the battery to transducer and observe cone movement
if cone moves forward the + of battery is the + of the transducer
if cone moves backward the + of battery is the - of the transducer

hope this helps OP  :)

megabigeye

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #22 on: 16 Jun 2016, 02:54 am »
A good place to start would be contacting hi-fi shops.

Q Audio and The Audio Lab are both in Cambridge.  I don't know that either of them do in-house repairs, but they might know where you could take/send your headphones.

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #23 on: 16 Jun 2016, 08:32 am »
for those who want to identify polarity,i used to do this check/test
i did this with speakers never done it with headphones
but the principle is the same
use a AA 1.5v battery,in the case of headphones i would also use
a resistor in series to limit the current to around 80mA
then tap connect the battery to transducer and observe cone movement


A headphone has a MUCH lower current limit than speakers. 80mA can potentially cook your headphones and I would aim for at least 10x smaller than that. Try a 1000ohm resistor in series if you decide to go this route. 

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #24 on: 16 Jun 2016, 05:46 pm »
Hi there
I have soldered a number of headphones
It can be pretty easy although I understand any anxiety the first time
You need a soldering iron where you can choose the temperature
Also an iron with a small pointy tip
if you have solder
wipe the heated tip with a damp good sized wad of paper towel
it may smoke a little but  ignore and wipe but don't not burn yourself
dip the hot tip into some flux the coat it with some new solder
do the same to the end of the wire
(you might be able to use the solder already there )
definitely put some flux on  the pad
you can use a pencil to hold the wire in place while you heat the connection
watch the solder go liquid on the surface and immediately pull the soldering iron away
Get get out but be sure you see a nice melt

I hope that helps
Just do it but be watch full

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #25 on: 16 Jun 2016, 11:24 pm »
A headphone has a MUCH lower current limit than speakers. 80mA can potentially cook your headphones and I would aim for at least 10x smaller than that. Try a 1000ohm resistor in series if you decide to go this route.

i have seen 50mW earphones and you're probably right
with low current you wont be able to see cone/diaphram movement
solution:
magnifying lens/glass


dB Cooper

Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #26 on: 17 Jun 2016, 02:10 am »
Or just observe the color coding on the wires. While polarity matters in stereo because of phase matching, the OP's post concerned soldering anyway.

In case the OP hasn't moved on (and who could blame him), I'd be interested to know what make/model of headphones were involved?

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #27 on: 17 Jun 2016, 05:14 pm »
Above it was written: “dont worry about pos. and neg. wiring the signal that goes through headphones is ac,but +/- is traditional thinking” and doubling down “you sure have no idea,whatever the polarity there is sound within hearing frequency”.

I have submitted the above quotes to the Committee Of The Internet for consideration to be awarded Most Asinine Alleged Technical Statement Post Of The Month. The Committee thanked me for the submittal and reported it was immediately placed among the top five contenders for June 2016’s award.

Fallingsnowfy asked: “for some reason the solder did not wanted to stick to the wires” to which Armaegis correctly replied “enamel is primarily what's stopping you”. Allow me to expand on Armaegis’ answer. Early in our learning electronics we get used to the various plastic insulation covering conducting wires. First lessons in soldering include stripping off plastic insulation then soldering together resulting bare copper wires and wire to connectors. The tricky part is when we encounter the other insulation, wire enamel. Insulating conductors with enamel dates back to the earliest days of electronics. Wire enamels are highly developed as they allow us to wind transformers and other magnetic components with the conductive copper wires tightly packed together while simultaneously exhibiting very high insulation resistances. Wire enamel is typically clear and very thin so it is easy to mistake an enameled wire for bare copper. In the context of headphones another useful property of wire enamel is it reinforces the copper’s mechanical properties when one needs a cable that can be small while withstanding repeated flexing.

Solder rolls off wire enamel like rain off a freshly waxed car. To successfully solder it the enamel must be removed. For hand work the method I use is as follows:
1.   Using a blade like a Xacto knife scrape the enamel off the end of the wire to be soldered. I angle the blade away from the cut direction so it scrapes the enamel while being less likely to catch and knick the underlying copper. I want to expose some of the copper but do not worry about getting all the enamel off. As when we strip plastic insulation the goal is to remove the insulation without nicking the wire, nicks create stress points that can result in wire breakage.
2.   With a hot soldering iron heat the wire for 5-10 seconds. Keeping the iron on the wire slowly feed solder onto the cut end and other areas showing bare copper. Success is when the solder melts and wicks up the copper under the enamel. We call this ‘tinning’ the wire. When it is correct the enamel will melt/burn and float off the wire on top of the now solder covered copper. Remove iron and allow to cool.
3.   Check solder is adhered to wire. Sometimes if the enamel is very tenacious I repeat the scrape and tin process to complete removal of the enamel.
4.   Once the wire is successfully tinned it can be soldered to the other wire, contact, or lug where it is needed.

Fallingsnowfy if you still want someone local to tackle the repair I suggest looking among musical instruments, recording gear, and commercial sound dealers. On the pro-audio side broken cables are a constant reality and with the equipment less disposable perhaps they will still have a repair technician on staff.

If all else fails PM me and we can discuss if you would like to send them to me and I will see what can be done to revive them.

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #28 on: 18 Jun 2016, 09:45 pm »
Thanks all the helpful reply's
I tried calling shops around, sadly most of the people around town are self proclaimed technicians lol, and none said that worked with small wires. SO i gave it shot my self and i failed at soldering, now the wire is so short that i think is beyond repair unless someone have the skills of a Heart heart surgeon.  Also i solder the 3.5mm jack on the wire and that went as expected, but the wire inside cans is just the devil.

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Re: Headphone repair shop
« Reply #29 on: 19 Jun 2016, 11:00 pm »
Where are you located?
What headphones are these?
Can you not replace the wire with some simple non-enameled stuff from home depot?