I'd like to thank gary, he was a great host. i had a great time , there was some eye opening or should i say ear opening experences. he's got me half hooked on tubes at least the pre-amp part and i'm now willing to at least listen to tube amps in my system. took my denon 2000ivr over and combined with gary's $450 pre-amp a great match and is on my list for next purchase.
oh gary don't forget, think magnavox
again thanks gary for a great time, i'll leave it for some of the others to give more detailed info.
marvin