[terry parr]

but this is part of what's coming:http://www.nme.com/news/daft-punk/74515

will it be "music's biggest night", (as the grammys like to sell it), or will it be "musical theatre's biggest night".   ?

you know, i try to keep an open mind (i really do), and i know i've aged-out of the grammy telecasts' target demo(graphic),  but still... we get
this?  their "music" is described as "french house", and "electro, synth-pop."  one reviewer even described the pair as "musicians."
since i'm now posting regularly here on AudioCircle, i guess that qualifies me to describe myself as "a writer."  i think i'll add that to my resume.
it'll look nice.

in discussing acts like Daft Punk, don't we need to differentiate between true musicians, and "sampling technicians?"   


what i plan to do this year is dvr the grammys and then watch it later.  it'll be interesting to see just how many minutes in total that i end up
actually watching and listening to.

not trying to be a "stick-in-the-mud" here, or to pee on anybody's parade (because if you enjoy this type of entertainment, and you're looking foreward to seeing them live, well, fine).   but calling these guys "musicians" is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?   

[terry parr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MteSlpxCpo&feature=player_detailpage

just in case you were curious.

the link to the article in my opening post didn't "take."

[Diamond Dog]

I don't listen to much EDM but I can appreciate an awesome hook and Get Lucky is loaded with 'em. I understand that Nile Rodgers laid down that wicked rhythm guitar part on that song.  And that melody didn't write itself, nor was it sampled from someone else's work AFAIK. The Daft Punk cover ( ? )  you linked to reminds me of Earth, Wind and Fire actually ( pretty sure it's the structure of the vocal harmonies ) and they were/are highly skilled musicians...
As a Bowie fan I'm not wholly averse to some musical theatre either.

Daft Punk just strikes me as well-crafted and innocuous dance-pop music and the Grammys...well, they're the Grammys so...

D.D.

[mamba315]

I don't mind your opinion.  However, I do listen to electronic and house type music and consider my favorite artists to be musicians.

The technology behind music production is constantly changing, now more than ever.  There's a cool scene on Human Planet where an African tribe is using the river as a drum kit, and their voices to copy jungle sounds.  This may be among the earliest type of music, and it still happens today.  Then we invented drums, stringed instruments, horns, etc etc.  I listen to a lot of acoustic stuff too, and love it.  There's no doubt that it's very difficult/impossible for synthesized music to recreate the complexities/harmonics of acoustically generated music.

But there are many emotions I've felt listening to synthesized music that I doubt could ever be recreated acoustically as well.  Both types of music are effective with me, and I'm glad for the choice.

A lot of things are deeply programmed early in our development.  I'm only 30 now, but it's possible that when I've doubled that number, I won't connect with the new stuff.  Maybe it's already happening, as 99% of dub step leaves me annoyed and looking for the exits.

Just play what makes you happy and leaves you feeling inspired.  We may take different roads but we listen for the same reasons.

[terry parr]

fair enough, guys.  fair enough.  (at least neither one of you "flamed" me). 

the post was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek, (since i had just changed my avatar, i thought an "angry", curmudgeonly post seemed to fit). 

i'm not quite as old as my avatar might suggest.  but, i'm still 50, which means i lived through a lot of the "synth, electronic" music of the 80's, when i was back in my 20's.  so, daft punk just seems more derivative than truly creative. i know a lot of art is "derivative" to some extent.  most everything is at least based on, or has borrowed aspects from something. 

my point is i just don't think the duo quite deserves the attention they seem to be getting. they just seem way too gimmicky.  (i don't know, diamond dog.  we'll have to disagree on this one). 

maybe it's that constant, monotonous, synthesized beat that drives me nuts now.  yes, i still dance.  but, just not to this stuff.   

when i think of all the 80's synth-pop that i lived through (and some of it was good and creative, don't get me wrong), but i wouldn't have thought that that genre was providing the musical foundation for groups 30 years later to build upon.

daft punk arn't the sons of the guys in the human league are they?  i'm kidding.

just my opinions, guys.

appreciate the respectful, non-flaming replies.

i think if the music business these days could be compared to a restaurant, you'd get the menu and see nothing but sweets and desserts.  "but this is the desserts menu, isn't it?"  no.  this is the main menu, sir.         

       

 

[Diamond Dog]

my point is i just don't think the duo quite deserves the attention they seem to be getting. they just seem way too gimmicky.  (i don't know, diamond dog.  we'll have to disagree on this one).   
 

Every bit of attention Daft Punk gets is one less bit of attention given to Miley Cyrus. 

D.D.

[HAL]

I am watching to see if Black Sabbath gets a Grammy for "13".   

[Kenneth Patchen]

Rock music is wasted on the young.

[lokie]

The Who- 0
The Beach Boys- 0
Dave Brubeck- 0
Queen- 0
Led Zeppelin- 0
The Doors- 0
Buddy Holly- 0
Jimmy Hendrix-0
Bob Marley- 0

[Kenneth Patchen]

Oh MTV, what have you wrought? Perhaps the disconnect here lies in trying to put the music of DaftPunk and its ilk in the context of serious rock music or art music, and it's not, it's pop music reflecting some of the tastes of the current pop culture. Pop culture is transitory and pop music often feeds from the candied Apple with some generations preferring their confections super-sized. To these ears the DP clip seems more appropriate for the next Starburst commercial soundtrack than it does for a serious music award. Is that necessarily a bad thing? No, to each their own and as the prophet said, every generation throws a hero up the pop charts. Yummy, yummy, yummy, I have love in my tummy. 

[Rob Babcock]

I quite enjoy DaftPunk; I don't have any of their albums but when I do hear them it's a pleasant change from the truly insipid crap on the radio most of the time.  As for the Grammys...well, I don't think I'll ever be bored enough to watch that.

[smargo]

in discussing acts like Daft Punk, don't we need to differentiate between true musicians, and "sampling technicians?"   





i have their new cd - I think there are 4 to 5 really good songs on it - remember the group "simply red" - that was their whole rap about how "sampling technicians" are really not musicians

to me - at the end of the day - if I find the songs strike a chord within me - then i could care less if the group knows how to play music or knows how to sample