Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations

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appdevman

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Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« on: 4 Jun 2013, 04:56 pm »
Hi All! 
New member here.  I like this site!

I am entertaining getting a 6B SST2 to run the front three HT speakers (L,R, Center).
I have two other Emotiva amps running fine.
I'm sending back a Parasound A21 because it is sensitive, introduced ground loop hum, and was just a pain.  The Emotivas have always been pain free, and not introduced any issues whatsoever.
I wish to upgrade the amp for the front 3 nonetheless. (the emotivas are fine for the rear 4).

My questions for this Bryston are:
1. Is it also sensitive like the Parasound, or will it be tough like the Emotiva's?  Can I assume it wont give me the ground loop issues the A21 did?  (no other amps have up until now)
2. 20amp outlets in the house.  I can plug directly into the wall OR a new Shunyata Hydra Triton.  I dont need to bring out an electrician to meet requirements for this 6B do I?  I will not be cranking this thing to beyond oblivion, sucking power.  90% of the time, it will be moderate playback volume, maybe slightly higher.  BluRay nights will be louder of course, but not shockingly.

I just want to confirm acquiring this amp is fairly straight forward, and I dont end up in the same place the A21 put me.
And it doesn't have prerequisites that need to be met, that I can generally use it like 'standard' amps.

I am disappointed in the Parasound being so quirky.  Potential great buy for the $ if it wasn't so sensitive.

thanks!

SHV

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #1 on: 4 Jun 2013, 06:07 pm »
"I just want to confirm acquiring this amp is fairly straight forward...."
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I have had a 6BSST for more than eight years, first used to run front three and now center and surrounds.  Just plug it into the wall and let it do it's job.  The only problem I have had was a few years ago, the center channel was running hot; one of the nice things about the 6B is that it is modular and I just removed the center channel and sent it to Bryston.   The only downside to the 6BSST2 is that it weighs 98 pounds!! :>)

Steve

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #2 on: 4 Jun 2013, 08:00 pm »
I would echo Steve's comments. I have one 6BSST(C) and two 4BSST(C) amps, purchased new in 2005, and they have been rock-solid stable and reliable, without hum or other issues. The 6B powers the LCRs in our 7.2 system, while the 4Bs handle the surround and rear channels. The amps run on a dedicated 20-amp circuit. Bryston's warranty is compelling, and the support is excellent.

Steve's point on the weight of the 6B is the only downside I'm aware of. The bugger is hefty. Oh, there is another downside: the amps work so well, you'll want other Bryston products.  :D

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appdevman

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #3 on: 4 Jun 2013, 08:41 pm »
Thx very much for the replies, much appreciated!  Bryston products do very much look awesome.  I may be bit soon.

Cheers!
Klaus

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #4 on: 4 Jun 2013, 10:15 pm »
I have a 6BSST for over 10 years and no issues.

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #5 on: 5 Jun 2013, 11:24 am »
I have a 6B-SST C Series, pre squared version along with two 4B-SST's (one pre-squared C series and the other an original SST series). I have had my original SST version since January 2004 and have had the other two amps since the Spring of 2006 I believe. My 4B's are bi-amped to power my mains and the 6B powers the center and 2 surrounds. All three are plugged into a Furman IT-Reference which is in turned plugged into a Furman SPR-20i and that is plugged into the wall. The wall outlet is 15a. The Bryston amps are great and run great, much quieter than an Anthem MCA-50 I had which the 2nd 4B and 6B replaced years ago. Bryston also has amazing customer service so any issue you might encounter in your 20+ years of owning the amp  :green: they'll be there to help.

appdevman

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #6 on: 6 Jun 2013, 06:13 pm »
Anybody know the pin mappings for the XLR?   I use a Marantz AV7005 Pre/Pro, which is known to use Euro pin mapping.   I read the schematic PDF that Bryston has on their website, but can't decipher what pin is what.

Great thing is the 180 phase switch on each channel, but I need to know whether to use it or not, based on the pin mappings.

thx in advance.

Phil A

Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #7 on: 6 Jun 2013, 07:42 pm »
Anybody know the pin mappings for the XLR?   I use a Marantz AV7005 Pre/Pro, which is known to use Euro pin mapping.   I read the schematic PDF that Bryston has on their website, but can't decipher what pin is what.

Great thing is the 180 phase switch on each channel, but I need to know whether to use it or not, based on the pin mappings.

thx in advance.

It's on page 3 of the manual - http://bryston.com/PDF/Manuals/300007[6B].pdf

appdevman

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #8 on: 6 Jun 2013, 10:01 pm »
Thx, I didnt look at the image, was skimming text.  I dont understand the verbiage, but i can see its its facing downwards, 9pm, 6pm, 3pm.  I'll try to compare to what the marantz looks like.

The remote turn on on every preamp ive used, and my current AV7005, is a small plug cable, looks like a 1/8" headphone cable.   The bryston has this OEM molex connector.   How do I turn the bryston on, I dont use a Bryston preamp.    Looks like I need a cable that has the  cable/plug for the marantz on one end, and the wires on the other for the bryston interface.    Anyone have to deal with this?

thx for the replies

Phil A

Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #9 on: 6 Jun 2013, 10:09 pm »
Thx, I didnt look at the image, was skimming text.  I dont understand the verbiage, but i can see its its facing downwards, 9pm, 6pm, 3pm.  I'll try to compare to what the marantz looks like.

The remote turn on on every preamp ive used, and my current AV7005, is a small plug cable, looks like a 1/8" headphone cable.   The bryston has this OEM molex connector.   How do I turn the bryston on, I dont use a Bryston preamp.    Looks like I need a cable that has the  cable/plug for the marantz on one end, and the wires on the other for the bryston interface.    Anyone have to deal with this?

thx for the replies

Don't believe the Bryston pins are reversed like the Marantz as I did briefly look at the Marantz when it first came out.  It wouldn't be a big deal as it would be just changing the pins with some solder but it was a bit of a turn off.  You can just get a plug at Radio Shack or other places and some wire or can by a pre-made cable and cut off one of the plugs.

appdevman

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #10 on: 7 Jun 2013, 02:50 am »
XLR
Yes what you explained sounds like a bummer, considering all my equipment is high end, getting adapters sounds like a band-aid hack.
Does this actually warrant attention? Or am I making a big deal out of nothing.  Can I just connect those cables and let it rip, and not suffer doing damage to ANYTHING?
So the phase inversion switch has nothing to do with this, the way it sounds.
I did get the amp by the way, it will be here in about a week.

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I have some standard wires for doing the remote turn on, same type that turn on my other non-Bryston amps.   I think I get what your saying, I can snip one end off, and wire it up?   Nice.  Ill try that.

Also thanks for everyone's patience, I just want to make sure I handle everything properly when I get this beauty.
I have my electrician coming to run two dedicated 20amp circuits as well.  One for my Triton Hydra, and one for this 6B.   I want to show this thing the care it deserves.

SHV

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Re: Bryston 6B SST2 - considerations
« Reply #11 on: 7 Jun 2013, 03:47 am »
"Yes what you explained sounds like a bummer, considering all my equipment is high end, getting adapters sounds like a band-aid hack."
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You can buy "high-end" Neutrik connectors and "high end" Japanese cable, Canare, Mogami, etc. and make your own  in less than an hour.  The other option would be to have Bryston make them for you.

Steve