Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...

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StereoNut

Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« on: 4 Mar 2013, 11:09 pm »
I just bought a really old (1990's ???) used Hsu TN1220HO subwoofer with the accompanying 250 Watt amplifier "on the cheap".  I also happen to have a Hsu Bass Optimizer that a friend gave me a while ago.

What are my options as far as integrating this monstrous, oversized cat-scratching post 12" driver subwoof into my 2-channel system?  My room is 16 x 28' with a 9ft. ceiling. 

The rest of my system is as follows:

• Dodd Battery Pre-amp
• N.Y.A.L. Moscode 600 Amp
• EE Minimax DAC
• Cambridge (D-500SE) CDP
• Von Schweikert 2012 Mod.VR-4 Gen.III speakers
• Linn LP12/Adikt/RB300/Soundsmith MMP3
• T.W.L. Cords

Will the "pros" of adding the sub, outweigh the "cons" of adding a lot of extra "junk" into the overall system... and will I really gain enough on the bottom end beyond where my "Vons" will go by themselves to justify all of this?

Please advise.
Thanks!

SN

*Scotty*

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #1 on: 5 Mar 2013, 01:58 am »
You have two of them now, try hooking them up and see what happens. I would start with them at the rear of the room out of phase.
Scotty

StereoNut

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #2 on: 5 Mar 2013, 03:17 am »
You have two of them now, try hooking them up and see what happens. I would start with them at the rear of the room out of phase.
Scotty

Two of what, Scotty!?!  - SN

medium jim

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #3 on: 5 Mar 2013, 03:30 am »
Two of what, Scotty!?!  - SN

I think Scotty was referring to subs...

Jim

StereoNut

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #4 on: 5 Mar 2013, 12:39 pm »
I think Scotty was referring to subs...

Jim

Only have one!

*Scotty*

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #5 on: 5 Mar 2013, 06:18 pm »
It would seem that there are days when I can neither read or count. My advice remains the same. Think of it this way, if your VR 4s actually are flat to 25Hz then there is a very good chance that you have fairly uneven bass response. The single sub operated out of phase at the rear of the room can go a long ways towards evening out the bass response.
 If it has a 24Db/oct. roll off that is variable in frequency, you can experiment with the crossover point and try to flatten out the bass response below 150Hz, which is generally about where room induced problems start manifesting themselves. You should be able to run the rear sub at a greatly reduced level compared to the front mains and still flatten out bass response in the room. The Bass Optimizer can be set for the higher frequency subsonic filter.
 Ideally when the sub is on operating out phase at the rear of the room you shouldn't even be able to tell it's on from the listening position if its level is set right. The sub isn't being used to augment the bass you have, but rather is being used to equalize the pressure in the room in the bass region. You can get away with running it at a lower level than the mains because you are only trying to cancel out bass energy headed towards the rear wall and the bass wave has been attenuated on its way by absorption by room boundaries.
Scotty

StereoNut

Re: Subwoofer Newbie Dumb Questions...
« Reply #6 on: 6 Mar 2013, 01:15 pm »
Thanks, Scotty and to everyone else.  I appreciate your insights here.  :thumb:

It's amazing how much so many of you know about all of this stuff, compared to me who is so "techno-challenged"!!! :duh:

I'll keep gathering up notes and eventually set aside a weekend day (or two?) to start experimenting with the new "bass toys".

SN