[sl_1800]

Everyone I've spoken to who has OB speaker systems has turned their backs on regular box speakers, as OB's just sound more lifelike.

I switched to OB speakers several years ago, I don't think I could ever go back to a box speaker.  Currently listening to Super V's.

[lonewolfny42]

VERY NICE.....ENJOY !!!   

I'll watch for further comments....

[johnzm]

The reason I went with the V2's Robin was my objective was to build a 3rd system for less than $5k, so this dictated the V2's over the Super V's.  I now have a system that costs less than individual components in my 'main' system, and is more musical and fun to listen to   Everyone I've spoken to who has OB speaker systems has turned their backs on regular box speakers, as OB's just sound more lifelike.  At the same time I'd become tired of chasing the holy grail of 'is this cable better than the other cable, does this DAC sound more musical etc etc' I just wanted to get back to the basics of enjoying music again.   Having said that, are the Super V's in my future constellation?  Oh yes........ 

I've had them up and running for over 3 weeks now, so I've got about 300 hours on the crossovers - I don't know if they're going to change much more than this, but I still find the overall sound intoxicating.  I'll post a more detailed updated later, but my prime objective of starting this thread was to highlight Ruben as a cabinet option, many of us on AC appreciate Danny's expertise in designing speakers but frustrated by not having the woodworking skills to put something together that they would want in their living rooms.  Ruben gives that option.....

how do these compare to the salks?

[Outofthewoods]

The reason I went with the V2's Robin was my objective was to build a 3rd system for less than $5k, so this dictated the V2's over the Super V's.  I now have a system that costs less than individual components in my 'main' system, and is more musical and fun to listen to

 

I'll post a more detailed updated later, but my prime objective of starting this thread was to highlight Ruben as a cabinet option, many of us on AC appreciate Danny's expertise in designing speakers but frustrated by not having the woodworking skills to put something together that they would want in their living rooms.  Ruben gives that option.....

VERY much appreciated!

Thanks again,

Ruben

[Outofthewoods]

Thanks for all of the compliments guys!

Ruben

[Philistine]

how do these compare to the salks?

The two speakers are completely different, a function of their inherent designs in addition to the drivers being used and crossover design.  The HT3's have better imaging and a more open and transparent top end, the V2's are more coherent, more tuneful effortless bass, more relaxed and musical.  The V2 system cost <$5k, the HT3 based system was $28k

[Tyson]

You might bug Danny about offering the V1 tweeter for the V2's, it seriously opens up the top and makes the V2 into a world class speaker, IMO.

[Tyson]

Oh, nevermind, I just saw your reply in the other thread.

[Philistine]

Amplifier Synergy

I've got somewhere between 300-400 hours on the V2's, during this time I've played with a couple of integrated amps.  The first is a Musical Fidelity KW500 that has been modded by John Sampson, John was the MF Service Manager for MF and started his own repair and mod business a few years ago - he swapped out the transformers in the separate power supplier and sent revised caps.  In its spare time the KW500 is used for welding purposes    The second amp is an Eddie Vaugh Carina that I bought used from another AC member, Eddie upgraded this to the latest voicing:

http://www.vaughnaudio.com/

I heard the Carina in another OB system and thought it matched perfectly, it also has great reviews in other OB systems.  The two amps couldn't be more different.

Well, no surprises - the Carina smokes the KW500 and has much better synergy.  I've used it in SET mode (1.5 watts) and Ultralinear (3 watts) and plays at levels way above what I want to listen to.  The V2's need so little power, and $ investment in amp electronics, in order to really sing.

[jrebman]

Hi Phil,

A little late to the party here but I've been looking for some new speakers for my living room system and the V2s are very high on my list and I see that a number of people I know have them and are saying the same kinds of things about them.  As it turns out, I have a Carina that would most likely be one of two amps that the V2s would be used with, so I'm really pleased to hear the results of your amplifier testing.

Just sent Rubin an email as he's local and I could go and pick up cabinets or flat packs and do the rest here.

I'd definitely be getting in line for the upgrade to the V1 tweets if and when that happens.

I spent a lot of time listening to the super-vs at RMAF last year and I was very, very impressed, but the v2s look like they're more in my price range and also sized to fit nicely in the space I have to work with.

Thanks for all your posts on these speakers!

-- Jim

[ebag4]

Amplifier Synergy

I've got somewhere between 300-400 hours on the V2's, during this time I've played with a couple of integrated amps.  The first is a Musical Fidelity KW500 that has been modded by John Sampson, John was the MF Service Manager for MF and started his own repair and mod business a few years ago - he swapped out the transformers in the separate power supplier and sent revised caps.  In its spare time the KW500 is used for welding purposes    The second amp is an Eddie Vaugh Carina that I bought used from another AC member, Eddie upgraded this to the latest voicing:

http://www.vaughnaudio.com/

I heard the Carina in another OB system and thought it matched perfectly, it also has great reviews in other OB systems.  The two amps couldn't be more different.

Well, no surprises - the Carina smokes the KW500 and has much better synergy.  I've used it in SET mode (1.5 watts) and Ultralinear (3 watts) and plays at levels way above what I want to listen to.  The V2's need so little power, and $ investment in amp electronics, in order to really sing.

I'm not certain how I missed this thread but amplifier synergy is something that I have really started to experience recently with my V1s.  Until now I did not know what my V1s were capable of at low levels.  I just built a Bottlehead Stereomour, low level dynamics and hearing the full breadth of the music is what this combo is all about.  It can do big and loud without issue and is always musical, but I have never heard music at a low volume played this completely, I am not missing any of the music that I typically had to turn the volume up to hear, this aspect of the combo really surprised and amazed me, mainly becasue I didn't know it was possible before this pairing.

Congrats on the new speakers Philistine, Ruben did an excellent job on those cabinets, very nice!

Best,
Ed

[tasar]

You make a good point re the Super Vs Ed. Low volume (spl) listening is the "holy grail" of this 97dB efficient design. I am now finding the battery buffer to be the "missing link" in low level dynamics. What made you choose the AC powered tube amp  as opposed to a battery driven type ? OFF topic here, sorry

[ebag4]

You make a good point re the Super Vs Ed. Low volume (spl) listening is the "holy grail" of this 97dB efficient design. I am now finding the battery buffer to be the "missing link" in low level dynamics. What made you choose the AC powered tube amp  as opposed to a battery driven type ? OFF topic here, sorry

Hey Dave!  Hope you are enjoying your SuperVs!  I was actually commenting on this earlier today via email to another member here, this is what I said:

"I was really concerned about the possibility of noise with the AC heaters, it turns out it has not been an issue.  I can hear the noise with my ear in the cone, but once I am more that a few inches away it is not noticeable.  Of course coming from a battery powered buffer and amp the noise level is higher, the background not quite as black, and logically I know there is a bit of noise which bugs me, but I am enjoying every other aspect of this combo. "

The operative word here is "logically", in reality it is not an issue.  Finding the low level musicality of this combo was a revelation to me, loving it. 

Best,
Ed

[Philistine]

I've got about 4 months on the V2's now, and they've become my principal speakers for day to day listening.  I just can't go back to regular box speakers, consequently my Salk HT3's are just being used for HT duties - they're still great speakers, but OB's just get the bass right and this is the foundation for great reproduction.  The only thing I'm missing is the open 'airy' top end that come from the ribbon tweeter on the HT3's, this is why we want Danny to work on the V1 tweeter upgrade.  I might have to follow Tyson's lead and go active.....

Visitors, who don't have a hi-fi background, are all bowled over when they hear the V-2's - they've never heard anything like them.

 

[Outofthewoods]

Hi Philip,

Love reading the updates.

Still interested in having red and gray grilles made? I'm in the middle of making a set of deep red grilles for the V-2's right now. I'll post some pics when they're done.

Ruben

[jonnoshore]

What is involved with converting the V2 tweeter to a dipole?

What implications does this have for the tweeter?

John

[Danny Richie]

What is involved with converting the V2 tweeter to a dipole?

What implications does this have for the tweeter?

It really can't be modified that way. It had to be replaced with the tweeter from the V-1 to use it with an open back. And no network has been designed for that tweeter to be used in the V-2.