[jriggy]

I remember reading, possibly in a few places, that to many Bybee Wire products in your system can be a bad thing, or have a negative effect...

Is there any truth to this at all???

For instance. I have a Bybee Wire Pure Power V2 conditioner. So lets say I then added the Wywires Gold IC's with Bybee Splitstreem Quantum purifiers, and THEN say, a source power supply with Bybee Music Rails... Would adding just one OR both of those do something negative to the systems sound? Over kill? or fine-and-dandy?
I do own and am kepping the conditioner. Just curios on the effect of adding more, or to many more, Bybees in the chain...

 Any truth or thoughts on this 'myth'?

Thanks
 jason

[rollo]

  Some feel the Bybees can be thin or or bright sounding if to many are  Takes the soul away. Like all things too much of a good thing has consequences.
  Give it a try in your system and that will tell all. One size does not fit all.


charles
SMA

[jimdgoulding]

Where is Robin (Satfrat) when you need him.  He's the king of bybee's.  I think the majority of members would like to see him about sometime soon.

[Wayne1]

Bybee Purifiers and Bybee Music Rails are completely different products and have nothing to do with each other.

Bybee Purifiers are passive devices that are usually placed in series with AC signals. They do very well in main AC power lines. I do like them when used in series with both positive and negative speaker cables. I have used them in both line level and digital cables. I feel they make a bigger contribution in the digital signal over the line level.

Bybee Music Rails are active devices that are used in the DC power lines. They do remove up to 45 dB of noise from the DC supply lines. I don't think you can ever use too many Music Rails. If you can fit them, they can be used at just about all DC voltages in every component.

[Bob in St. Louis]

Where is Robin (Satfrat) when you need him.  He's the king of bybee's.  I think the majority of members would like to see him about sometime soon.

He's on restricted status. I tried to PM him, but was unable due to the restriction.

Bob

[Big Red Machine]

I would be very judicious with Bybees.  I've been told that any Bybees in the AC is a bad choice but the audio signals may be where they do their best work.  I have tried Bybees many times and not heard any benefits.  YMMV, but I would say that too many is possible.

[Folsom]

I used two per outlet on a conditioner, and one for ground.

The person I built it for hasn't changed anything in his system since. He just buys music and listens to it. However I am not convinced of Bybees myself. I think they might actually hurt sound in a way we believe is good. Frankly the sound from many stereos with them sound articulate in ways that you can't hear with an acoustic instrument playing in front of you. This same concept is why I believe nearly all very expensive audio cables are designed to accomplish this very same thing. Besides these stereo's are never my favorites to listen too.

I think the problem is that you can reveal that your stereo doesn't sound that good with a great reduction in noise. Revealing the essence of your stereo might be a turn off. You actually want a little more fatigue and distortion to prevent it from sounding too thin. So I don't see conditioning as ever being a bad thing. Power restriction through small wires, active devices, resistance, on the AC side however is entirely different. In a transient response within nanoseconds and sort of lag (with current) I see as a determent (I am skeptical that Bypee's do this in a controlled manner, but maybe not). People report this regularly when they try types of power conditioning that do any of those things. Only some amplifiers and things really seem to be tolerant of it, but those also seem to run fine batteries so you can skip the conditioning.

These new rails are interesting. They are actually an old known idea, but not used often. This is the first rendition of them in an IC in this way... now if they were cheaper I might care. With zero fatigue I have no incentive to upgrade very often.

[wywires]

I would be very judicious with Bybees.  I've been told that any Bybees in the AC is a bad choice but the audio signals may be where they do their best work.  I have tried Bybees many times and not heard any benefits.  YMMV, but I would say that too many is possible.

The Bybee Purifiers (Slipstream and Quantum) have the most effect in the signal path and mostly in the analog domain. Their function is to remove about 60-70% if the 1/f noise. It's not known exactly how this happens but it works. I recommend placing the first Bybee Purifier at the source(s) as it will have the greatest effect and perhaps a second either between a preamp and a power amp or between the power amp and the speakers. The effects of multiple Bybee Purifiers diminish as you add more.

[sts9fan]

Some would say one is too many.

[wywires]

Some would say one is too many.

To each his own...