power on or off

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power on or off
« on: 11 Feb 2011, 10:17 pm »
Reading Laundrew's power on sequence in another post reminded my of a post I had been meaning to make... this one.

Any opinions on keeping your gear on 24/7 as opposed to 30mins before a "session".?

I have tube mono blocks so these are always off unless being used in anger... but all my other stuff is always on 24/7.

Upside of always on is they are always ready to rock.

Downside is risks from power brownouts etc increases and potentially reduced capacitor life.

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #1 on: 12 Feb 2011, 03:07 am »
I keep my stereo stuff on, 24/7/365. Though I do turn off the amplifier some of the time when not in use. (Lately I am back to also leaving the Bryston 4B-SST2 on all the time also)
On another site someone was adamant about leaving stuff on was very bad. So i Googled: "Mean time to failure" or the like, and found particular comments that made it clear: (paraphrase) The PRIMARY cause of failure is cycling. (which is the on/off/on/off as number one cause once the first 'faulty part' failure phase has passed .. the break in phase)
((Added: so it reasons one SHOULD turn electronics on and off a LOT during the first few months of new ownership if the warranty is of short duration, to stress parts that will fail. So they fail during the warranty!!))
So leaving stuff on is going to make it last longer. Not shorter. And since the notions about caps etc are all theoretical gossip.. i would put my bet on the tested, and thus the primary cause of failure is the repeated turning an electrical product on and off. (solid state and electronic circuits, tubes are mainly just the tube life, they would last more hours left on, but the usual time off is way more than the life added, so they would seem to last a lot longer if turned off.)
Over the years i have to say stuff sounds better after at least a half hour, and even better 24 hours left on. It is not a lot, mostly better air around the instruments.. But at the level of audiophilia I'm at, that air would cost $10,000. to $30,000. MORE to have at turn on..
I would not leave tube amplifiers on, unattended! (Tube preamps are OK, if you are willing to have a shorter tube life).
A tube amp could have a catastrophic tube failure. Not likely, but stories of power tube pyrotechnics/fires make it not safe to leave a tube amp unattended for any length of time, (unless you a prepared for a fire,  like have your tube amp sitting in a large sand-filled concrete bunker...)
Brown outs would really only be dangerous if the stuff was playing as far as I know. If it is idling, I don't think the stress would be enough to be dangerous for the usual circuits. (I have heard there is some type of power supply circiuts which could be damaged?)
Anyway, Since I use power conditioners, they have protections for major power faults.
And since i am now retired, and play music at least 10 or more hours a day, every day... i might as well leave it all on.

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #2 on: 12 Feb 2011, 03:56 am »
Hi  I have a 4bsst2. Was wondering what changes sonically when the amp is first turned on and when the amp has been on for 24 hrs
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Re: power on or off
« Reply #3 on: 12 Feb 2011, 12:16 pm »
When my audio equipment is not in use, I have it turned off.

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #4 on: 12 Feb 2011, 01:30 pm »
I keep my stereo stuff on, 24/7/365.
 

I apologize for the digression, but . . .

In the interest of consistency, shouldn't that be 24/7/52, as for 24 hours per day by 7 days per week by 52 weeks per year? Either that or 24/365 for 24 hours per day by 365 days per year.

Maybe I should change my name to Nitpicker?

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #5 on: 12 Feb 2011, 01:33 pm »
Amongst other Brystons I also have a 4B-SST2 and they all sound best after 2 single malts, however long that takes.

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #6 on: 12 Feb 2011, 01:48 pm »
Amongst other Brystons I also have a 4B-SST2 and they all sound best after 2 single malts, however long that takes.

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #7 on: 12 Feb 2011, 01:50 pm »
...good one Gary! the personal warm-up makes the difference :thumb:

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Re: power on or off
« Reply #8 on: 12 Feb 2011, 02:02 pm »
Amongst other Brystons I also have a 4B-SST2 and they all sound best after 2 single malts, however long that takes.

Gary

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