[orthobiz]

After reading posts 653 to 661 on the Catch of the Day thread: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=72684.660 I thought it would be interesting to hear why certain of us just have to have multiple copies of a single record title. I like Bill's explanation, "because I can." Kinda like the "because it's there" response to "why climb Mt. Everest." I know I'm guilty, I mean, why would anyone need four copies of Ziggy Stardust????

I'll start: one record has a UPC code on the back when the original was released before UPC codes were in widespread use. Like Chicago III pictured here. The theory is that some of the original mastering is best.

BTW, this is a great record and I consider it the "last" Chicago record for me. They were singing about going to Canada to avoid the draft, then had the live Chicago IV and followed with Chicago V and "Saturday In The Park." Like they were lobotomized. But I digress..



Paul

[S Clark]

I have three copies of Richter's Rachmaninov preludes and the 2nd Concerto.  I don't think that there is version that comes close.

[SteveFord]

I just realized that I have two sets of a whole bunch of stuff - regular releases and then recent 180gm remasters: Who, Roxy Music, Zappa, Doors, Airplane, Eno, Jeff Beck, Cream, probably some others.
Three or four sets if you count CDs.
These stood the test of time (for me, at least).
Why so many?  Trying to find the best sound quality for the music I like the best.

[orthobiz]

I have three copies of Richter's Rachmaninov preludes and the 2nd Concerto.  I don't think that there is version that comes close.

So you have three copies in case something untoward happens to one, like a scratch or a warp...makes sense to me!

Paul

[S Clark]

I had one to play everyday and one for reference and special occasion.  The third was given to me when my brother divested all things vinyl. 

[vinyl_guy]

Since I started this by asking Bill why, I need to confess that I am guilty of buying more than one copy at times too. I usually have a reason like a different pressing of a record I really like (British, USA, Germany or Japan); or to find a better quality record than the one I have; or I forgot that I already have the record. I also have bought 180g reissues or MoFi releases, especially if the reissue garners high praise from reviewers and vinylholics on AC .

[Wayner]

I have several sets as well. If you may notice, some LPs, like my Yes-Fragile have 2 different catalog numbers. The first (I think) one is SD7211. The second one is SD19132 and a later printing.

In many cases, I'm told, the original stamping plates were either so damaged from all the wear or lost, that a second generation had to be made to do the reprinting. Now there are things that go on in the cutting room, that just aren't part of any recorded process, so the 2 copies, tho from the same master, are not exact copies, either. Not like a digital file. So the conclusion that I have is that the second or what ever release, may (and probably always) will sound ever so slightly different from the first.

Wayner

[orthobiz]

So the conclusion that I have is that the second or what ever release, may (and probably always) will sound ever so slightly different from the first.
Wayner

And if you go to dccblowout.com you'll see that each SIDE of a given album can be entirely different. Can really make you nuts!

Paul

[pumpkinman]

Thanks Paul I don't feel quite soooooo nuts now  seems I'm not the only guilty party.
I find so many LPs for a $1. Like I said why not. I bought a soundtrack to the movie
"Bunny Lake Is Missing" because it had tracks by the Zombies on it and paid $60.00. Not
likely I'll be buying 4 copies of this LP. When for the 60.00 I can buy other records.......Bill

[blakep]

I end up with multiple copies of records that I tend to really like because I tend to be seeking a better pressing (either a cleaner/quieter pressing or, often, an earlier, better sounding pressing).

For the most part I don't tend to keep duplicates and generally trade the weaker copy away until I have a copy that I am extremely satisfied with.

I'm pretty fussy on condition but it will not always be the final arbiter. I had a mint late 70's reissue of Van Morrison's Too Late to Stop Now that I let go recently after finding a white label promo with 1A stampers. The promo has a bit of ticking for about 25-30 seconds on one of the sides and, although it's in very good shape everywhere else it was still not in the "condition" that the reissue was. It sounded so much better, however, that it was a no contest and I had no problem selling/trading the reissue away.

I've bought so many copies of the Doors' Morrison Hotel trying to get a decent first pressing that I've finally just given up and combined 2 records into one sleeve: one with a perfect first side and one with a perfect second!

Once in a while you get lucky though. On the weekend I bought about 30 records for about $145; more than I like to generally pay from a private seller but pretty much all was in mint condition and some very nice music. A 3 record box set of "The Genius of Wes Montgomery" was a nice catch in the group, but definitely a bit short of being mint.

The highlight though, was a copy of the Doors LA Woman. I've also bought numerous copies of this, including a UK first pressing which was recently replaced by a US first that, although not in top rate condition, did sound considerably better. The weekend "catch" was phenomenal though: a white label "radio station copy" promo that has it all: incredible sound quality and absolutely pristine condition. Not cheap at $40 (included in the $145), but from a collectable point of view an absolute bargain and probably one of the definitive pressings of that record, not that I have any interest in selling it.

[etcarroll]

You were nuts to spend $60 on just one copy.

Next time you need Zombies, send me a check for $60, and I'll call you on the phone and sing to you. 

Thanks Paul I don't feel quite soooooo nuts now  seems I'm not the only guilty party.
I find so many LPs for a $1. Like I said why not. I bought a soundtrack to the movie
"Bunny Lake Is Missing" because it had tracks by the Zombies on it and paid $60.00. Not
likely I'll be buying 4 copies of this LP. When for the 60.00 I can buy other records.......Bill

[SteveRB]

I'll pick up doubles of anything on-the-cheap usually for gifts. Not that i try to dictate the music that other people should listen to. But, i feel like there are a few records that a must be in a collection but are often overlooked: The Cars (s/t), Fleetwood Mac (Rumours), Moon Martin (Escape From Domination)...

[pumpkinman]

I end up with multiple copies of records that I tend to really like because I tend to be seeking a better pressing (either a cleaner/quieter pressing or, often, an earlier, better sounding pressing).

For the most part I don't tend to keep duplicates and generally trade the weaker copy away until I have a copy that I am extremely satisfied with.

I'm pretty fussy on condition but it will not always be the final arbiter. I had a mint late 70's reissue of Van Morrison's Too Late to Stop Now that I let go recently after finding a white label promo with 1A stampers. The promo has a bit of ticking for about 25-30 seconds on one of the sides and, although it's in very good shape everywhere else it was still not in the "condition" that the reissue was. It sounded so much better, however, that it was a no contest and I had no problem selling/trading the reissue away.

I've bought so many copies of the Doors' Morrison Hotel trying to get a decent first pressing that I've finally just given up and combined 2 records into one sleeve: one with a perfect first side and one with a perfect second!

Once in a while you get lucky though. On the weekend I bought about 30 records for about $145; more than I like to generally pay from a private seller but pretty much all was in mint condition and some very nice music. A 3 record box set of "The Genius of Wes Montgomery" was a nice catch in the group, but definitely a bit short of being mint.

The highlight though, was a copy of the Doors LA Woman. I've also bought numerous copies of this, including a UK first pressing which was recently replaced by a US first that, although not in top rate condition, did sound considerably better. The weekend "catch" was phenomenal though: a white label "radio station copy" promo that has it all: incredible sound quality and absolutely pristine condition. Not cheap at $40 (included in the $145), but from a collectable point of view an absolute bargain and probably one of the definitive pressings of that record, not that I have any interest in selling it.

I've bought so many copies of the Doors' Morrison Hotel trying to get a decent first pressing that I've finally just given up and combined 2 records into one sleeve: one with a perfect first side and one with a perfect second!

That is something I'd never even thought about. I recently picked up a Japanese Morrison Hotel but have yet to listen to it......Bill

[pumpkinman]

You were nuts to spend $60 on just one copy.

Next time you need Zombies, send me a check for $60, and I'll call you on the phone and sing to you. 

As always with you Gene I feel the kindness just oozing out of you..... you are twisted

[etcarroll]

That's why you love me brother.

And to get back on topic, I'm with V_L, most of my dupes are because;

"... or I forgot that I already have the record. "

[orthobiz]

That's why you love me brother.

And to get back on topic, I'm with V_L, most of my dupes are because;

"... or I forgot that I already have the record. "

Sometimes a search of the vinyl shelves reveal stuff I never even remembered buying. Like Richard Lloyd's (Television, Matthew Sweet) album Alchemy. What a great record, I knew I had it. However, I can't remember ever buying Field of Fire. But somehow I have it, in the same clear plastic jacket right there with Alchemy. I think my records sometimes undergo mitosis or something...

Paul

[pumpkinman]

That's why you love me brother.

And to get back on topic, I'm with V_L, most of my dupes are because;

"... or I forgot that I already have the record. "

There have been a few LPs that where purchased because I forgot
but I usually know what I'm buying..........Bill

[Scottdazzle]

Several reasons:
1. Looking for a better copy. 
2. Replacing a cd. 
3. Replacing a cd that replaced the lp back when cd's were perfect.   
4. I forgot I had this one. 

[hifitommy]

for various reasons.  with 'fri nite in SF by dimeola/delucia/mclaughlin-it was to get a decent copy.  first one had a gouge, another noise, third excellent. 

other times as with osamu: "osamu" i will buy every time i see one.  i have given them to friends and was lucky enough to find a japanese copy--QUIETER.

i HAVE bought dups because i couldnt easily find a record i knew i have as well.  safety copies of good ones is another reason.

[decal]

When I end up with multiple copies of an LP,it's usually because of CRS .When I realize I have extra copies,I try to gift them out.